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Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 02-24-2017 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1808718)
Automatic weapons and high capacity magazines should be straight banned just like you aren't allowed explosives

But a hand gun or a hunting rifle idk that I can support a complete ban

People don't need them for protection really they just want to own a gun because they like guns
well considering more gun related deaths come from handguns then assaults riffles AND the assault riffle ban from 94-04 had minimal affect, im not sure why you would ban one and not the other.

FRED HALE SR. 02-24-2017 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1808720)
I'm not arguing it hasn't been demonstrated. I'm arguing it should be demonstrated on an individual basis. We will have to agree to disagree on your opening statement.

How about this I'll reduce my stance to: Owning a gun should be a right if you need it is necessary for protection, but it should not be the right for anyone to get one because they like guns.
I certainly can get on board with the individual basis, that we can agree on. We can disagree thats what adults do, see Don its possible. There are people who collect guns and those that use them for the wrong reasons, its a real catch 22 though to take away everyones rights.

Frownland 02-24-2017 03:55 PM
Calling Chula Donald in this thread>>>>>>>>

FRED HALE SR. 02-24-2017 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1808724)
Nah the people that could actually need to use guns say those living in inner city Detroit want them gone

It's rural areas where guns are very rarely used for anything but fun that don't want the regulations
Well I live in a big city and certainly feel safer knowing I can defend myself in the event of a break in or subsequent assault by another individual.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 02-24-2017 03:56 PM
chula "the donald" vista

FRED HALE SR. 02-24-2017 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1808730)
Edit: in response to Qwertyy

Same reason you ban rocket launchers

It's not the frequency it's the amount of dmg that can be done with one use coupled with the fact that it's pretty guaranteed you're up to no good if you stash one
I certainly agree that people don't need ak47's to feel safe. I still would love a rocket launcher though just for ****s and giggles. :yeah:

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 02-24-2017 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1808730)
Edit: in response to Qwertyy

Same reason you ban rocket launchers

It's not the frequency it's the amount of dmg that can be done with one use coupled with the fact that it's pretty guaranteed you're up to no good if you stash one
i dont really see why anyone would "need" an assault riffle so i get where youre coming from but im just giving you the numbers. if we're banning on the merits of how dangerous they are we should ban handguns as well since they kill more. if we're banning them in order to bring down gun related deaths, well we've seen in the past that didnt happen.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 02-24-2017 04:00 PM
btw im just playing devil's advocate here, im not trying to defend mr texas' right to own an AR-15.

DwnWthVwls 02-24-2017 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1808730)
Edit: in response to Qwertyy

Same reason you ban rocket launchers

It's not the frequency it's the amount of dmg that can be done with one use coupled with the fact that it's pretty guaranteed you're up to no good if you stash one
That can't be your only argument though. People can do just as much damage driving a car into a huge crowd of people. I'm sure there are other examples where this concept also applies but I can't think of one atm.

FRED HALE SR. 02-24-2017 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1808734)
btw im just playing devil's advocate here, im not trying to defend mr texas' right to own an AR-15.
I think you have to also take into account that those numbers are inflated due to the average joes ability to own a handgun as opposed to a high power rifle. Also, i'm guessing that those numbers are also inflated by illegal weaponry that has not been registered.


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