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Old 02-28-2017, 05:20 PM   #3341 (permalink)
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We're talking basic quality of life the Internet is ultimately not improving it despite the fact that it should be

And that's all political

I am not psychic so I can't say that there won't be a breakthrough that makes us immortal, but what I can predict is that like everything else the majority of people will be left out
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Old 02-28-2017, 05:21 PM   #3342 (permalink)
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We're talking basic quality of life the Internet is ultimately not improving it despite the fact that it should be
Now that's a damn hefty claim to be making.
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Old 02-28-2017, 05:25 PM   #3343 (permalink)
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I think we have a lot to learn from other planets. Space exploration could shatter our own laws of science if we find exceptions to them, which can advance us in ways we would have never thought possible.
Too bad the money that'll be needed to fund it will come at the express of programs like preservation of the arts, school lunch programs, senior citizen medicaid and social security, and stuff like the EPA, national park preservation, federal infrustruce maintainence (bridges, roads, clean water , etc.), and supporting our allies when they are on the verge of being screwed over by one of our enemies, not to mention tax increases for you and me with less and less federal benefits.

Other than the possibility of finding proof of alien bacterial life under the surface of Europa, science has long ago proven there's nothing else to gain from our own solar system.

So awesome idea, let's gut the house we live in so a bunch of boys with expensive toys can see if there's a way to build a tree house in the swimming pool.

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Old 02-28-2017, 05:26 PM   #3344 (permalink)
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Funny enough the rise in quality of life in developing nations is linked to the big boogie man of Globalism specifically global trade

But this is a huge discussion to get into (but a fascinating one for sure, if only because I don't have all the answers)
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@Chula Please you would've been all over it if it was Obama's move.
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Then on a further macro level scientific discoveries do little to improve the majority of people's lives unless we have the sort of policies in place that demand it

New technology has only benefitted the Uber wealthy for the past 30-40 years for the most part beyond frivolous consumer goods

The coming generation will not even have a higher life expectancy than the previous for example
If the poor who have had their money used for supposedly frivolous things that expand human culture have never been moved to wonder and joy by such things then they might as well be replaced by robot slaves because they have no other value to society beyond their labor. And that simply isn't true, so obviously they derive value from them, even if that value can't easily be quantified.

Reaching for the stars to explore a universe beyond our own tiny little mudball is a beautiful thing, and shouldn't be cast aside simply because it doesn't obviously and immediately improve quality of life.
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@Chula Please you would've been all over it if it was Obama's move.
Stop addressing me with lame comebacks and bring some substance for a change.
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Too bad the money that'll be needed to fund it will come at the express of programs like preservation of the arts, school lunch programs, senior citizen medicaid and social security, and stuff like the EPA, national park preservation, federal infrustruce maintainence (bridges, roads, clean water , etc.), and supporting our allies when they are on the verge of being screwed over by one of our enemies, not to mention tax increases for you and me with less and less federal benefits.

Other than the possibility of finding proof of alien bacterial life under the surface of Europa, science has long ago proven there's nothing else to gain from our own solar system.

So awesome idea, let's gut the house we live in so a bunch of boys with expensive toys can see if there's a way to build a tree house in the swimming pool.

And should it be cast aside if it hurts quality of life for the masses just to fund it?
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Stop addressing me with lame comebacks and bring some substance for a change. Address the substance of my post limp dick.
I will address the substance of your posts when there is genuine substance to your posts. Until then you're going to have to handle the substantial truth in my posts that point out your reactionary nature .

The only thing that you've said against the benefits of space exploration is the misguided notion that there's nothing else for us to discover in space. How the **** are you going to know what you will and will not discover? If you know that you're going to discover it, it's not a discovery.
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Considering the potential benefit to future population growth from colonization, and the increase in resources if mining other planets ever becomes economically feasible, I'd say space travel is probably one of the most worthwhile things we can invest money in, even if the benefits aren't felt for generations.

And just from a personal standpoint, putting all your efforts into pragmatic concerns like poverty and whatnot just feels too utilitarian. I'd rather be a little frivolous and allow our race to actually indulge its ****ing imagination.
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Like sending monkeys to space or what?
Leave Violet out of this.
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