Ahaha, Im sorry have you missed the last 8 years of emperor Obama, wanna talk about ego there's a case study for the ages... This prick actually flew to the U .K. to tell our cousins how to vote on Brexit. This is the ******* that flew to Cuba to tell people there is no difference between communism and capitalism, this is the clown that is hold up a few miles away from 1600 Pennsylvania ave which is actually unprecedented ( had to throw in a buzz word) is the height of ego, and arrogance. Reality TV is not reality you know there are cue cards or boxes that tell people how to comport themselves yea? Trump has always had ego for 40 freaking years all my life this man has had what if it was a black man for exsample would be called swag. So ****ing what, people who voted for him voted for his policies not his personality. And honestly in 40 years this man has really had no issues in the public eye....Until he ran for office using his own damn money. And in this failing ****ing republic that's boss...

You seriously sound like my friend's strungout sister. Hope everything's alright.

Cry about it Capitalist pig

Even Anteaters strawman make unproven assumptions

Worker cooperatives exist and profit with no motivation other than survival of the whole

It's demonstratably not even a crazy idea

Nice ideal...but again, doesn't work at scale. Human nature gets in the way. Communism in general only works (if at all) at a community level. Once you hit any real point of scalability, you end up with failed states not all that dissimilar to former Russia or Cuba.

Now, I haven't really been keeping track (seeing as I have my hands full out here more often than not), but I'm pretty sure I've seen quite a few "unproven assumptions" in the last bunch of discussions with you lovely folk. But I'll start keeping score from now on. ;)

We just don't know that

And just as easily Capitalism does not work

And Marxism seeks to abolish gov in exchange for worker cooperatives not one giant centralized agency if you want to really understand it

As far as Cuba:

Prior to Communism things were actually worse in Cuba

You're delusional. He never put forth any policies, just buzz phrases.

Build a wall. (don't hold your breath)
Repeal and replace Obamacare. (that didn't quite work out)
Bring back jobs. (still waiting. Stock market had its 8th straight day of losses yesterday)
Make America great again. (still don't know what this means)
Drain the swamp. (have you seen his cabinet members?)

People voted for him BECAUSE of his personality. They chose the rookie snakeoil salesman over the career politician because, well, I guess career politicians are suppose to be bad. Or something.

I still don't understand why you keep coming here. Did you get chewed up and spit out of an actual political forum or something?

I don't think it's an either/or scenario and that both were large driving factors, not to mention how his personality and the crowd riding directly influenced what little policy we could pin down.