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Old 04-08-2017, 06:16 PM   #4481 (permalink)
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We already have the answer it's called Democracy
Democracy is perfectly suitable for taking ants from anthills. (Are we talking about direct, communist democracy btw?)
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Old 04-08-2017, 06:21 PM   #4482 (permalink)
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Haves keep setting up the world so they keep getting.

Have nots don't really have a say in the matter at the end of the day.

It's very simple, and has been for centuries all over the planet.

Outraged idealism doesn't count for jack ****, never has, and never will.
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Old 04-08-2017, 06:22 PM   #4483 (permalink)
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I imagine the whole idea of "mine, mine, mine" is so pervasive throughout human history/pre-history that your (possible) ideas of abolishing it are laughable. People want ****. People have a habit of figuring out how to get ****. It's how we figured out how to use sticks to get ants out of anthills for food. Lo and behold we have Wallstreet.
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Capitalism doesn't work because people like to own everything.
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Old 04-08-2017, 06:26 PM   #4487 (permalink)
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Capitalism doesn't work because people like to own everything.
But since people like to own everything the only thing that can possibly work must integrate capitalism in some way. Or else **** you - the people probably
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important to point out Marxism made a distinction between personal property and the means of production but so off topic now I should just have my own Ask a Communist thread

It's not that no one is entitled to the shirt on their back it's that the false meritocracy shouldn't be determining who gets to own a shirt
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"Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff."

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Zappa really said that? The man must have been a genius.
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important to point out Marxism made a distinction between personal property and the means of production but so off topic now I should just have my own Ask a Communist thread

It's not that no one is entitled to the shirt on their back it's that the false meritocracy shouldn't be determining who gets to own a shirt
I kind of don't see a distinction in a real world sense since there will always be someone leading the proles to build something, and that person will always see the product being more his/hers than theirs. So any means of production will always be to some extent personal property unless the leader/leaders is not sufficiently competent enough to quell the rabble and take what he/she sees as rightfully theirs.

I mean, stuff like bridges and roads that don't directly produce revenue can be "public", but factories? The leaders will never let the followers have them without a fight.
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