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Old 04-10-2017, 04:03 AM   #4591 (permalink)
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This, but unironically I guess?

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Karl Marx is responsible for more deaths than any other individual human being in history.
You can't just make that claim with no effort to back it up. Where are your sources, young man?

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If anyone is interested in the proper interpretation of Marx's "dictatorship of the proletariat" that Lenin and Stalin misrepresented may I direct you to Trotskyism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trotskyism
This is the first time I'll have to disagree with you in this thread. As I see it, there goes a theoretical straight line from Marx/Engels to Lenin regarding the dictatorship of the proletariat. Trotsky and Lenin were pretty much in agreement here. Have you read The State and Revolution?
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Old 04-10-2017, 07:08 AM   #4592 (permalink)
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Marx wrote the communist manifesto. His ideals lead to communist governments which have killed around 100 million people. Obviously I am a personal responsibility advocate, and my comment wasn't literal (that Marx himself killed them all) but his theories have resulted in incalculable amounts of death.
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Would you blame World War II on Friedrich Nietzsche?
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:04 AM   #4594 (permalink)
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There's a difference between a supposed influence and following a doctrine.
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Old 04-10-2017, 10:13 AM   #4596 (permalink)
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Karl Marx is responsible for more deaths than any other individual human being in history.
Goofle, I'm just losing so much respect for you. How can you mouth such nonsense? What about Jesus Christ? How many deaths is he responsible for? More than Marx?
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Hmm I think Pope Urban II or Ghengis Khan might want a word.
And that **** Hitler too. And Julius Caesar. And the Pharaohs of Egypt. And ....
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Old 04-10-2017, 11:06 AM   #4597 (permalink)
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Adam Smith definitely has the higher death count.
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Old 04-10-2017, 11:55 AM   #4598 (permalink)
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If published writings are at fault for all these deaths, clearly Gutenberg is responsible for more deaths than anyone else in history.
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and the doctrine wasn't followed when those people were killed

Stalin was not a communist

and again communist revolutions happened in countries where people were already being starved to death by brutal dictatorships
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