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Lisnaholic 05-14-2017 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1835551)
You do something that may result in you getting arrested... You're probably gonna get arrested bro.

^ That may be true, Goofle, and there is an argument for saying that if you stay out of trouble you won't become an incarceration statistic. But their incarceration rate is five and a half times ours. Even if we allow that there may be different conviction rates, and different sentence lengths in the two countries, there is a clear implication that there is a higher proportion of crime in the USA. That means more victims of crime and more burden on the taxpayer.

There is of course a link between life expectancy and obesity, but obesity is only one factor in life expectancy. Other factors are environmental and don't depend on personal choice; levels of pollution and violence, safety regulations, availability of affordable health care, etc, etc. (The latter, of course, Trump is commited to eroding if he can, which would cause the USA to slide even furthur down the world statistics tables.)

Here, btw, is another statistic I dug up:-

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Average class size in public(=state run) secondary schools:-
USA :27
UK : 19

OccultHawk 05-14-2017 07:52 PM

When I was in junior high one of my friends was murdered. It's not like I'm really going to get offended but she didn't bring it on herself. There's all kinds of scenarios out there. You know that all ready. Thugs and criminals get murdered. So do innocent kids. I say **** that's hard to defend but that's a brutal opinion dude.

DwnWthVwls 05-14-2017 08:31 PM

i wasnt aware we determined that environment is the sole contributor of human production. And its not emotional, but if thats what you need to tell yourself feel free.

The healthcare system is not the reason we are unhealthy. Healthcare is not the only factor of health. You can look to native tribes with high life expectancy where healthcare is basically non-existent or based around holistic/herbal medicine. Next?

rostasi 05-14-2017 08:37 PM

Maybe having to not wear sheets anymore is something better about Amerikkka?
Mr. Alt-Right leads the charge.

djchameleon 05-14-2017 08:38 PM

Food deserts and lack of proper nutrition education lead to higher obesity rates.

Chula Vista 05-14-2017 09:22 PM

Suicide is the 10th leading cause of death in the US. Each year over 44,000 people kill themselves in this country. That does not include drug overdoses, drunk driving accidents, etc.

You should move here Goofle.

DwnWthVwls 05-14-2017 09:27 PM

44000 is ~1.6% of total deaths in the US going by 2014 census data. So really its a miniscule contribuor of life expectancy.

OccultHawk 05-14-2017 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1835591)
Suicide is the 10th leading cause of death in the US. Each year over 44,000 people kill themselves in this country. That does not include drug overdoses, drunk driving accidents, etc.

You should move here Goofle.

This is the likely end for both of us, isn't it?

DwnWthVwls 05-14-2017 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1835592)
what's cool about those tribes is you don't need a credit card to receive care and/or get medical advice

the bold is true however

our culture is partially responsible too (we're over-consumptive, there's a whole other discussion about why that is)

the fact that an entire country of people can have a health problem ie obesity means it makes no sense to label it as a personal responsibility issue, how is this not obvious to you

I love your generalizations.. You say entire country when the reality is closer to 33% of the country (for various reasons). Keep trying though. The truth is our healthcare system is very low on the totem pole when it comes to reasons Americans are unhealthy. Culture, big business, lack of nutrition education, etc are all bigger concerns.

DwnWthVwls 05-14-2017 09:39 PM

Sure, but why don't you make an argument for it anyway with your naive 2 years of poli sci education that allows you to be an expert on all the worlds problems.


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