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Old 04-10-2017, 05:57 PM   #4611 (permalink)
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I don't think I can really agree with that in a direct sense

It is true that Capitalism lead to it

But the ideology itself does not justify it
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Old 04-10-2017, 06:02 PM   #4612 (permalink)
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I don't think I can really agree with that in a direct sense

It is true that Capitalism lead to it

But the ideology itself does not justify it
Slavery and the genocides were completely founded in capitalistic greed.
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Old 04-10-2017, 06:18 PM   #4613 (permalink)
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They predate both capitalism and socialism

I mean slavery and genocide in general

As do dictatorships and mass starvation
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Old 04-10-2017, 06:28 PM   #4614 (permalink)
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You know how can an ideology based on free trade be directly responsible for slavery

It is indirectly because of its creation of ever rising demand for cotton

How can an ideology based on a stateless worker cooperative run world be directly responsible for the actions of dictators

Indirectly maybe by helping to incite revolutions that went full circle
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Old 04-10-2017, 06:36 PM   #4615 (permalink)
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Point being you're being stupid if you try a statement like that
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They predate both capitalism and socialism

I mean slavery and genocide in general

As do dictatorships and mass starvation
I mean in America. I think I can I make a pretty good case.
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It's flimsy even early American socialists were white supremacists

It's only true that the success supposedly due to Capitalism was largely due to slavery then and imperialism now
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It's only true that the success supposedly due to Capitalism was largely due to slavery then and imperialism now
One word response: Greed

I think you know what I'm saying. I actually think if we were discussing it over a beer we'd be 90% on the same page.
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stuff capitalism justifies is like the destruction of the planet which has the real potential to be mass murder in the coming years
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