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Old 05-14-2017, 08:39 PM   #5471 (permalink)
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WHO shows (thru 2015) that on a list of 183 countries,
the US is 48th highest suicide rate while the UK is #123.
Sri Lanka is #1 and Antigua and Barbuda are last.
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Old 05-14-2017, 08:39 PM   #5472 (permalink)
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Not that I can prove. Some suspicious deaths for sure.
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Old 05-14-2017, 08:46 PM   #5473 (permalink)
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^ That may be true, Goofle, and there is an argument for saying that if you stay out of trouble you won't become an incarceration statistic. But their incarceration rate is five and a half times ours. Even if we allow that there may be different conviction rates, and different sentence lengths in the two countries, there is a clear implication that there is a higher proportion of crime in the USA. That means more victims of crime and more burden on the taxpayer.

There is of course a link between life expectancy and obesity, but obesity is only one factor in life expectancy. Other factors are environmental and don't depend on personal choice; levels of pollution and violence, safety regulations, availability of affordable health care, etc, etc. (The latter, of course, Trump is commited to eroding if he can, which would cause the USA to slide even furthur down the world statistics tables.)

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Old 05-14-2017, 08:52 PM   #5474 (permalink)
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When I was in junior high one of my friends was murdered. It's not like I'm really going to get offended but she didn't bring it on herself. There's all kinds of scenarios out there. You know that all ready. Thugs and criminals get murdered. So do innocent kids. I say **** that's hard to defend but that's a brutal opinion dude.
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Old 05-14-2017, 09:01 PM   #5475 (permalink)
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As usual everything is someone elses fault with you. Nevermind the fact that all of our biggest healthcare costs can be reduced with decisions that are financially beneficial to the consumer.
for someone who is all about that Science you take a purely emotional stance with this fixation on personal responsibility

people are a product of their environment

But as it specifically relates to healthcare it isnt a coincidence that the US has the worst healthcare system of Western nations and the most unhealthy people
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Old 05-14-2017, 09:31 PM   #5476 (permalink)
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i wasnt aware we determined that environment is the sole contributor of human production. And its not emotional, but if thats what you need to tell yourself feel free.

The healthcare system is not the reason we are unhealthy. Healthcare is not the only factor of health. You can look to native tribes with high life expectancy where healthcare is basically non-existent or based around holistic/herbal medicine. Next?
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Old 05-14-2017, 09:37 PM   #5477 (permalink)
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Maybe having to not wear sheets anymore is something better about Amerikkka?
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Food deserts and lack of proper nutrition education lead to higher obesity rates.
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Suicide is the 10th leading cause of death in the US. Each year over 44,000 people kill themselves in this country. That does not include drug overdoses, drunk driving accidents, etc.

You should move here Goofle.
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The healthcare system is not the reason we are unhealthy. Healthcare is not the only factor of health. You can look to native tribes with high life expectancy where healthcare is basically non-existent or based around holistic/herbal medicine. Next?
what's cool about those tribes is you don't need a credit card to receive care and/or get medical advice

the bold is true however

our culture is partially responsible (we're over-consumptive, there's a whole other discussion about why that is)

the fact that an entire country of people can have a health problem ie obesity means it makes no sense to label it as a personal responsibility issue, how is this not obvious to you
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