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djchameleon 01-07-2017 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1792505)
Russia's economy is in the crapper and we have the keys that Putin wants in order to turn his country around. This is something we can use, and even if Trump doesn't see the big picture, Rex Tillerson does. Furthermore, Russia would be a useful tool to deal with the elements of the Islamic State (as well as ISIS) that fuel most the world's terrorism.

There's a lot of people worried that America would become a puppet state to Russia, but those same people are also clueless about how government actually works and what is and isn't at stake. We hold all the cards, which is why Russia is desperate to do anything to try to improve their situation. China, on the other hand, is honestly a much bigger problem overall. If we aren't careful with them we'll be looking at a real life analogue to The Man In The High Castle within half a century.

Explain why China is a bigger problem. I've heard people spout that but they never go into detail. Yes I know they own a lot of bonds from us but I feel like economically they are in a weaker position than Russia atm.

elphenor 01-07-2017 09:25 PM

China is going to be a problem because Trump has made them one

Tarrifs and such go both ways China could kneecap our economy the next time Trump tweets something offensive

Chula Vista 01-07-2017 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1792510)
China is going to be a problem because Trump has made them one

Tarrifs and such go both ways China could kneecap our economy the next time Trump tweets something offensive

Or if he keeps kissing Taiwan's ass.

Frownland 01-07-2017 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1792512)
Or if he keeps kissing Taiwan's ass.

lol I don't think accepting a call is the same as kissing their ass. This kind of stupid hyperbole is what handed Trump the election.

elphenor 01-07-2017 09:28 PM

That falls under offensive

In fact it's the most offensive thing ever to the Chinese pretty much

Anteater 01-07-2017 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1792509)
Explain why China is a bigger problem. I've heard people spout that but they never go into detail. Yes I know they own a lot of bonds from us but I feel like economically they are in a weaker position than Russia atm.

There's multiple factors and angles depending on where you focus on. The fact our entertainment industry (especially Hollywood) seem to spend more and more money on films that appeal to Chinese audiences is one trend. Other points of interest are economic (our debts to them, the bonds you mentioned, etc.). And then there's the real estate angle:

Forbes: Chinese investment in U.S. real estate is going strong - October 31st, 2016

A lot of economists simply think that a combination of these factors are a disaster for us in the long run because it gradually gives China more and more leverage over us from different fronts.

Chula Vista 01-07-2017 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1792513)
lol I don't think accepting a call is the same as kissing their ass. This kind of stupid hyperbole is what handed Trump the election.

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Trump’s call with Taiwan was the first time an American president or president-elect has publicly spoken to a Taiwanese leader in nearly four decades. China considers the self-governing island to be its territory and any reference to a separate Taiwanese head of state to be a grave insult.
China official says Trump's Taiwan comments cause 'serious concern' | Fox News

China 'Seriously Concerned' by Donald Trump's Taiwan Comments

China: Trump

Frownland 01-07-2017 09:34 PM

Exactly. Stupid hyperbole and meaningless firsts. Get over it.

Chula Vista 01-07-2017 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1792516)
There's multiple factors.....And then there's the real estate angle:

Indeed:

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/07/us...-business.html

Chula Vista 01-07-2017 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1792518)
Meaningless firsts. Get over it.

Not me. Tell it to China.


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