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elphenor 01-13-2017 04:09 PM

he also told big buiz to go **** themselves dropped fat antitrust laws like a boss

he would have not allowed an atrocity like Walmart to exist

djchameleon 01-13-2017 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1794817)
Well of course. I'd agree with you on that one until the day I die. My only point is that if people are choosing not to be skeptical (which you should always be when news breaks out, whether it's presidential, a celebrity death, or w/e) this type of stuff will always blow up. I looked at it with skepticism and checked if other sites were reporting it, and I came up with nothing. At that point, I just played the waiting game and nothing has really been said about as far as I know.

I didn't check what CNN had to say on it but I believe they were reporting on it as well. How did you come up with nothing?

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1794834)
Well I don't disagree with that, but that's not my point in the first place. News outlets or "fake news" outlets are putting out stories about Trump because they know it'll get under his skin. He reacts to it every time, and that's at the end of the day what people are hungry for.

That is in no way their motivation for doing that. It's all about the money. There were companies in eastern Europe making stupid amount of money publishing fake stories during the election cycle and I'm sure they aren't going to stop any time soon. Why would they?

Key 01-13-2017 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1794970)
I didn't check what CNN had to say on it but I believe they were reporting on it as well. How did you come up with nothing?

I didn't know that they reported it is what I meant by that.

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1794970)
That is in no way their motivation for doing that. It's all about the money. There were companies in eastern Europe making stupid amount of money publishing fake stories during the election cycle and I'm sure they aren't going to stop any time soon. Why would they?

Well of course it's about the money. That's what clickbait exists for as well. I'm not saying it wasn't the motivation behind it because that's just obvious. I imagine they gained millions of clicks on their site just by that article alone.

Neapolitan 01-13-2017 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1794941)
I'm pretty sure this had more to do with the spark of controversy and conspiracy over his birth certificate because of his middle name. Presidents technically do not have to show their birth certificate upon taking office. But Obama was the wild card because of his background and name. Hardly fueling the fire.

Maybe there are people out there that think they know him by his name and will form either a positive or negative opinion on him based on that alone. While it's true some people think that way, that doesn't make it sound reasoning.

His name isn't the issue. His first name, "Barrack," is either linguistically related to "Baruch" ben Neriah (according to Josephus a Jewish aristocrat and son of Neriah) or "Barak" who was a military leader of the ancient Israelite. Just having the name "Barrack" gives no indication on his opinion of Israel. There are many Jewish people who are very disappointed, even critical, with Obama over issues concerning Israel.

It's just an opinion that Barrack Obama was in on the controversy over Article Two of the Constitution based on the fact he often like to scoff at the Constitution.
The 21 times Obama violated the Constitution

Key 01-13-2017 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1794983)
Maybe there are people out there that think they know him by his name and will form either a positive or negative opinion on him based on that alone. While it's true some people think that way, that doesn't make it sound reasoning.

His name isn't the issue. His first name, "Barrack," is either linguistically related to "Baruch" ben Neriah (according to Josephus a Jewish aristocrat and son of Neriah) or "Barak" who was a military leader of the ancient Israelite. Just having the name "Barrack" gives no indication on his opinion of Israel. There are many Jewish people who are very disappointed, even critical, with Obama over issues concerning Israel.

It's just an opinion that Barrack Obama was in on the controversy over Article Two of the Constitution based on the fact he often like to scoff at the Constitution.
The 21 times Obama violated the Constitution

Dude, you're completely off the radar with that one. There were countless reports of people asking for his birthplace and certificate when his middle name was much more publicized. I'm not talking about his first and last name, I'm talking about his middle name being Hussein. If you somehow forgot, the reason for this outcry was because of the big issue with Sadam Hussein which back then was a very touchy subject, and so people started to question the validity of Barack leading this country since you have to have been born in the US. Rightfully so, there was several counts of controversy over this and eventually he did show his birth certificate solidifying his validity to be president.

He was in no way shape or form involved in "fueling the flame." You're assuming this country isn't dumb enough to assume that Barack Hussein Obama isn't the name of a extremist Muslim out to destroy the US. That's literally what people believed.

kibbeh 01-13-2017 06:15 PM

lol so what if his name is hussein

first of all having an arabic name doesn't make you a muslim second of all, even if he was a muslim, who cares. isn't it supposed to be a 'free country'? why shouldn't a muslim run for president.

Key 01-13-2017 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69 (Post 1794993)
lol so what if his name is hussein

first of all having an arabic name doesn't make you a muslim second of all, even if he was a muslim, who cares. isn't it supposed to be a 'free country'? why shouldn't a muslim run for president.

You obviously missed the origin of this back and forth. I'm not saying there is anything wrong. What I'm saying is in response to what Nea originally said:

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I had the impression that Obama fueled the fire by not to showing his birth certificate.
He's under the assumption that Obama portrayed fueling the fire in the same sense that Trump seems to be doing. Which is inaccurate since Obama did show his birth certificate due to an outcry because of his middle name.

kibbeh 01-13-2017 06:18 PM

yeah, i wasn't directing that at you, i was just saying about how americans would've freaked out if obama was a muslim who ****in cares

Key 01-13-2017 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69 (Post 1794996)
yeah, i wasn't directing that at you, i was just saying about how americans would've freaked out if obama was a muslim who ****in cares

Well again, it was due to the whole deal with Sadam Hussein. Barack Obama having the same middle name as an Iraq president raised some concerns. Especially with Barack Obama taking the highest seat in the country. I'm not saying it's right that the country freaked out, but you and Nea are assuming people in this country aren't dumb enough to think that such a thing would actually be accurate.

I don't think it'd had been much of a big deal had Sadam Hussein not been so "famous".

kibbeh 01-13-2017 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1794997)
Well again, it was due to the whole deal with Sadam Hussein. Barack Obama having the same middle name as an Iraq president raised some concerns. Especially with Barack Obama taking the highest seat in the country. I'm not saying it's right that the country freaked out, but you and Nea are assuming people in this country aren't dumb enough to think that such a thing would actually be accurate.


so if saddam had a different first name like joseph or tony or something and then a guy with the same name ran for president, people would freak out? that's retarded. but i know a lot of americans are stupid that way.


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