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DwnWthVwls 04-11-2019 06:34 PM
So I have the free will to pick my pasta? Which side are you on, Lord of Bats?

Also, than*

OccultHawk 04-11-2019 07:13 PM
Bat

How close are you to being like well you’re not smart enough get back to me if you ever get there?

You’re literally defending cause and effect to an endless barrage of prove it.

Sometimes you don’t need science anymore. Any subject no matter how obvious and perfectly established can constantly be attacked and more and more “science” can be demanded endlessly. Actually, that’s why it’s a litmus test issue.

The Batlord 04-11-2019 07:26 PM
It's not a question of intelligence, but I'm stymied about how I'm not getting through. People just be so attached to being people that they can't admit the sky's blue. I mean I think the reason I'm so ready to accept it is that I'm so depersonalized that thinking that I'm nothing isn't much of a stretch. People with real self-esteem are naturally going to be harder to convince.

https://media.giphy.com/media/gs9bb3DIq6JS8/giphy.gif

OccultHawk 04-11-2019 07:36 PM
You “accept” it because it’s clear and obvious.

DwnWthVwls 04-11-2019 07:39 PM
so i dont have free will to decide elbows or shells?

DwnWthVwls 04-11-2019 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg (Post 2051847)
It's not a question of intelligence, but I'm stymied about how I'm not getting through. People just be so attached to being people that they can't admit the sky's blue. I mean I think the reason I'm so ready to accept it is that I'm so depersonalized that thinking that I'm nothing isn't much of a stretch. People with real self-esteem are naturally going to be harder to convince.

https://media.giphy.com/media/gs9bb3DIq6JS8/giphy.gif
So are skeptics when you cant justify your belief with evidence. Every other example on OHs list has evidence.

OccultHawk 04-11-2019 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2051849)
so i dont have free will to decide elbows or shells?
Of course not

Frownland 04-11-2019 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg (Post 2051839)
Alright let's take this post you made in the Free Will thread.



In order for an action to be cancelled it must either be mathematically predictable, which cancels out free will, or it must be decided essentially by a random number generator, which also cancels out free will because then no decision is being made. You're simply a victim of literal chaos. You're a ship adrift on an ocean with no engine, no oars, no sail, no rudder, and the ocean isn't even an ocean because the movement of water is defined by math so it's nothing more than an abstract nothingness where anything and everything are possible. There is no middle ground where free will is allowed to exist.



Well if it's complex and seemingly frivolous then clearly no math is involved.
I will concede that our brains are predictably wired to make decisions.

DwnWthVwls 04-11-2019 07:48 PM
Cool. Now demonstrate why.

Frownland 04-11-2019 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2051853)
Cool. Now demonstrate why.
Our neurons interact in a certain manner to effect bodily processes when a range of processes are available.


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