Science!

**Frownland** · 12-04-2019, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

so that makes it kinda annoying that if someone wants to assert their identity as "non-binary" now it's "well gender doesn't matter anyway"

You don't see how this is more or less the same thing?

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I'm not even asserting an opinion in this case

it's just curious

I feel like there's more to it than just conformity to social norms, there's likely some psychological factors outside that

The disparity between what's considered masculine in, say, Spain versus the US is enough evidence to suggest that social influence on gender is a more significant factor than sex.

**Frownland** · 12-04-2019, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I think that something being a social construct doesn't remove it as having power as an identifier particularly to the user

Ja that would be silly.

**Frownland** · 12-04-2019, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

especially since it only seems to be an issue outside of cis gender

I'm not so sure about that.

The Batlord · 12-04-2019, 08:05 PM

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we don't often go round telling lumberjacks that their masculinity is an adherence to a social construct

**Frownland** · 12-04-2019, 08:09 PM

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we don't often go round telling lumberjacks that their masculinity is an adherence to a social construct

I do when they become a lumberjack to validate their masculinity.

Oriphiel · 12-05-2019, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

morass

Yes please

YorkeDaddy · 12-05-2019, 08:27 AM

Went down a fun rabbit hole today reading about microplastics in the ocean. The title of this article is clickbaity but still has good info:

https://earther.gizmodo.com/theres-l...n-o-1840175488

This led to me reading a long discussion about the Fermi Paradox and how a handful hypothesize that the invention of plastic is the Great Filter - whenever a species invents plastic it either goes extinct or becomes too dependent on plastic to explore space.

Basically we're all gonna die thanks goodbye

debaserr · 12-05-2019, 09:07 AM

If you want a possible example of a great filter that occurred in our solar system look at Venus. A runaway greenhouse effect cooked that planet.

YorkeDaddy · 12-05-2019, 10:11 AM

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If you want a possible example of a great filter that occurred in our solar system look at Venus. A runaway greenhouse effect cooked that planet.

Earth could very well meet the same fate!

Lucem Ferre · 12-05-2019, 10:33 AM

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I view the modern ideas about gender identity as a compromise between the ideal idea that everyone is their own specific gender and we should just get rid of the whole concept, and the old fashioned habit of dividing the world into two genders. It allows a place for people who don't fit within those two genders

So what exactly does gender mean anymore? At this point it just seems to be somebody's identity and is only tied to their sex because of the stigmas and stereotypes we pounded into our culture. Ideally, gender shouldn't be a thing to worry about and people should get to be their selves regardless of if they have a dick or not. The only real purpose for identifying somebody based on gender or sex is only for the purpose of having sex otherwise just treat them like a human being. Then again, that will never happen because people can't fathom living with out stereotypes based on the superficial things so here we are having to compromise with an overly convoluted mess. I blame Boomers.

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