Twinsies :).

I noticed the overlap as well around the time that Gamergate happened. There was an anime looking girl called Vivian that was constantly being referred to and people posting pictures of her but I never bothered to research the origins of Vivian.

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You are pointing to the issue that affirmative action attempts to solve as the reason that affirmative action doesn't work lol. Plus I'm sure you know that you're strawmanning the concept by defining it by slippery slope scenarios that are so far outside the norm that they're essentially nonexistent.

Lastly, as I'm sure you've picked up on here, stupid people will bitch about anything and blame their problems on anyone but themselves, so that discrimination article doesn't really hold that much weight either.

There is also the issue of pointing to one case to show that the entire policy is flawed. Overall the policy general does more good than harm with a few outlier cases.

I was spit-balling a few hypothetical scenarios. I'd like to hear a great way in which we could enforce equality of outcome, but there definitely isn't one.

But yeah, I agree. People will blame anyone other than themselves for their failings. Either individually or as a community. Hence my whole stance against affirmative action in the first place. But at least there's a good reason to complain if you're being discriminated against due to affirmative action.

Evidence of this por favor. Or define discrimination because I see a lot of delusional people who simply proclaim that they're too wonderful to not admit into a school. The admission process runs through a lot more than SAT scores. If their victim complex falls under the umbrella then sure I agree with this statement.

https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files...Dec%202004.pdf

This is the only source I could find. I don't think they are really "collecting" data on it.

I get your point, but I don't think losing a job to affirmative action is discriminatory as much as it is the result of a shitty system that had to be put into place because of actual discrimination.

The most effective approach to affirmative action in my mind is maintaining a diverse admissions boards as well as in the groups that develop admissions standards.

I do think that affirmative action as most people understand it (student quotas) has its merits because of how different the opportunists between people can be. A student in a poorer neighborhood with the same SAT score as someone from a more upscale neighbourhood may not have the same extracurricular activities available to them that would put the latter student over the edge in the admissions process.

It's never perfect and could always be honed down though. Sometimes people are denied for the most fickle reasons, like having a boring but good writing style or just not seeming like a good fit for the school's culture (another good reason why a diverse board is a good idea: it keeps schools from becoming the [x] club).

I hate that argument tbh. Just because one group has more privilege than another does not invalidate discrimination against the more fortunate group. This goes for everything class, race, gender, etc. It may change priority but not significance.