rostasi

Yes, its history is complex, but what some people are emotionally involved in here is the immediacy of now - the carefully chosen aspects of terrorist attacks that instill an immediate response to shout "ISLAAAAM!!!" and then when it is overwhelmingly shown that religion was not the cause or that the perpetrator wasn't even a Muslim, the dichotomy apparently doesn't matter when their position is one born of rage and emotional instability sometimes coupled with an outside social influence that's appallingly ignorant or manipulative - especially when its prey is the under-developed prefrontal cortex of a young person. You are right tho that statistics can't penetrate a mind so mired in such an emotional quagmire. For example, if you tell them that in 2013, there were 152 terror attacks in Europe and that only two of them were “religiously motivated,” while 84 were predicated upon ethno-nationalist or separatist beliefs, the comeback (as we've seen here) is along the lines of "Hey, how about after 2013!" Even if you were lucky enough to have someone put together a lock-tight investigation that included 2016 (which would be a challenge), they would still state that you're still 4 months short - 'cause, you know, that's when terrorism really picked up - or some such nonsense. Take a flat-earther in a boat around the Earth and, at best, you'll convince him that the Earth is cylindrical. It's easy to give up.

rostasi

Yes, TH, those weren't my words. I was presenting online info from various sources - something that you have to do here because, apparently, the onus is on the sensible people here to disapprove nonsense from others too lazy to actually do the research themselves. Better to go along with your "clan" of folks I suppose.

Yes, I saw Goofle's post. The only "scroll-wheel breaking" done was when I was trying to find relevancy.

rostasi

Also, Pet Sounds wasn't "challenging" me on my post of info.

#1: as I said above about recent statistics...
#2: sources are all over the Internet - even sending some of you links won't dissuade you -
there's always a number of runaround excuses devoid of facts that follow.
#3: apparently 47 years (and more, not less) are in dispute
#4: EXACTLY!!!
#5: so if the numbers are not surprising, then what's the big scary bugaboo?

riseagainstrocks

Nah, no one seems to respond to my challenges these days. Not sure if they're scared, unsure of how to attack it, agree, or just don't want to.

But some posters seem to skip over the part where I directly challenge their sources or assertions and continue to "debate" with 'U' 'NO U'. Oh well, happy to provide ammunition to those who agree and want to use snippets in other arguments. Typing up thoughts on these topics is a nice break from technical audit reviews...

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Chula Vista

Racism is also defined as a prejudice against a particular ethnic group.

And ya, the subtext beneath a lot of the posts in this thread is that Islam/Muslim = terrorist.

Don't point the finger at me as being the dense one here.

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Akai

Religion has nothing to do with prejudice by ethnicity.

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Chula Vista

Wha? Muslim is considered an ethnic group.Plenty of people are racist against Muslims - ignorantly so though.

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Frownland

Then why was immigration the very first thing you brought up?

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Akai

You're forgetting the middle east (a predominately Muslim region)
Iraq, Afghanistan and after 2015, Pakistan are the top three most dangerous country's in terms of terrorism.

Iraq: 2,418
Afghanistan: 1,708
Pakistan: 1,009

Muslim opinion polls;
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/p...ion-polls.aspx

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Ol’ Qwerty Bastard

that website is pretty ****ty

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