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Fluff 04-09-2017 10:04 AM

Islam in Europe
 
I figured it'd be better to post a single thread to discuss the situation in Europe. We had ones for Paris x 2 and the Lee Rigby murder, so may as well have one thread instead of several/me clogging the news thread up.

Thoughts? Is there a problem? If so how do you think we fix it?

A fifth person recently died after the London attack - Westminster terror attack: Romanian woman dies from her injuries - CNN.com

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Akai 04-09-2017 11:25 AM

Yes, definitely a problem, probably the best way to start combating it within the UK at least would be to temporarily close borders in order to discuss and enforce new regulations and extensive background checks while abolishing free movement

Also to start stopping radicalisation, a good place to start combating that would be in prisons

If I was an MP looking for an already laid out solution with a high chance of success, I would just ask Tommy Robinson

Neapolitan 04-09-2017 11:26 AM

Two Optic churches were bombed during Palm Sunday attacks in Egypt by ISIS. I heard on the news that ISIS promise to increase their attacks against Egyptian Christians.
Palm Sunday bombings kill dozens at Christian churches in Egypt - CNN.com

The November (13th) Paris attacks happened on the anniversary of
Occupation of Constantinople.

Justthefacts 04-09-2017 11:30 AM

Huge fucking problem. And many of them come to the west not knowing the proper language and resort to crime to make ends meet. Honestly, what was the point in moving if you aren't willing to assimilate? I want people in our countries to understand that the west is the best. Black, white, muslim, mexican, whatever you may be as long as you're cool with assimilating and understanding some western values I definitely want you here. But if not go back to your fucking country.

Frownland 04-09-2017 11:34 AM

They sure are some scary guys. I think that the only way to solve the problem is by making Muslims into second class citizens. Building resentment is the only way to get these savages to change.

Fluff 04-09-2017 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ziggy ''Frappanised'' Zappada (Post 1821551)
Also to start stopping radicalisation, a good place to start combating that would be in prisons

Cheers for the reply to the thread.

I don't know anything the prisons other than what I've heard but it sounds like they are pretty much recruitment centres for this sort of thing.

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If I was an MP looking for an already laid out solution with a high chance of success, I would just ask Tommy Robinson
I like Tommy, I used to fall for the stuff people would say about him but I took some time watching his appearances on telly and on radio and found myself agreeing with much of it. He doesn't get everything right but I can relate to him a lot.

Fluff 04-09-2017 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by frownland (Post 1821559)
they sure are some scary guys. I think that the only way to solve the problem is by making muslims into second class citizens. Building resentment is the only way to get these savages to change.

ok...

OccultHawk 04-09-2017 12:12 PM

Islam ****s up everything it touches. How big of an ******* do you have to be to kill people in Sweden? You take the most tolerant accepting culture in the world. Move in and **** all over it. Every Muslim country on earth is a ****hole. I don't care about left or right or any of that ****. It's a piece of **** religion. How do I know that? By looking at the places where it's practiced. I know it feels nice to accept people and different faiths but reality is reality. I know I'll get backlash and hate for this but goddamnit don't kill the messenger. Europe has been really doing a great job unshackling itself from the chains of religion and suddenly they're at the mercy of the most moronic religious fanatics on earth. Basically opening the door to all of Syria??? Are they ****ing nuts? Why is Syria so ****ed? Because the ****ing Syrians! Solution? Move Syria to Europe! Whew.

Isbjørn 04-09-2017 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1821563)
ok...

He was being sarcastic

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1821572)
Islam ****s up everything it touches. How big of an ******* do you have to be to kill people in Sweden? You take the most tolerant accepting culture in the world. Move in and **** all over it. Every Muslim country on earth is a ****hole. I don't care about left or right or any of that ****. It's a piece of **** religion. How do I know that? By looking at the places where it's practiced. I know it feels nice to accept people and different faiths but reality is reality. I know I'll get backlash and hate for this but goddamnit don't kill the messenger. Europe has been really doing a great job unshackling itself from the chains of religion and suddenly they're at the mercy of the most moronic religious fanatics on earth. Basically opening the door to all of Syria??? Are they ****ing nuts? Why is Syria so ****ed? Because the ****ing Syrians! Solution? Move Syria to Europe! Whew.

Syria has a secular regime and it's still ****ed. The reason it's ****ed is because it's been torn by civil war for six years, which is actively fuelled by imperialist powers. Hell, leaked documents prove that the US government planned to use the IS as leverage against Assad. Same goes for the various rebel groups, including "moderate" ones (read: Al-Qaeda and aligned groups). Extremist groups are not a product of islam in and by itself. They gain prominence because they're armed and funded by the US, Norway, Britain, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia among others.

Maybe if the "democratic" world police would butt out of the Middle East (and Northern Africa), there'd be peace in the region.
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1821559)
They sure are some scary guys. I think that the only way to solve the problem is by making Muslims into second class citizens. Building resentment is the only way to get these savages to change.

When I was six, my muslim friend ate like, five pieces from my chocolate calendar. Spooky innit.

Fluff 04-09-2017 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Isbjørn (Post 1821575)
He was being sarcastic

yeh, I think that was obvious mate, I have seen enough of his posts to know what his position is even if I was unsure whether it was sarcasm, but the post was just odd. Nobody said anything about making Muslims second class citizens.


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