The Environmental Watchdog MasterThread

Oriphiel · 12-11-2018, 04:05 AM

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Lisnaholic · 12-11-2018, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Lis - it’s not even just the news and the science. After the past two hurricane seasons as a person who lives near the coast in Florida, I can feel it. Heat, humidity, mold, hot water coming out of cold taps, mosquitoes - all around insane swampiness - you can literally feel the disaster in the air. I know people will think oh Florida has always been like that but I’m telling you no ****ing way - it has not always been like this.

^ Yeah, that does sound horrible OH. I live in an area very similar to Florida in terms of physical geography and have to tolerate mold, mosquitoes and humidity too. Luckily though, I am out of the typical hurricane path, so it's only about once a decade we get the kind of probs you describe. Still remember, though, what it's like trying to clean up after even the lightest flooding (= one inch of filthy water across the floor). Two days later, desperate to dry out furniture, I put some outside in the humid breeze, only to discover 5 mins later that it was getting rained on. Not the most dramatic of cases, but you def have my sympathy tolerating that literally moldy climate.

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Hurricane Michael actually picked up strength after hitting land. That’s how much wet heat was on the “land”. If you understand how hurricanes fuel themselves then you’ll know how ****ing insane that is. I am living in an area that will not survive. Even if mankind totally eliminated greenhouse emissions today this area is already ****ed. It’s not even like the good old days when Katrina hit (it passed over here too) when Mother Nature had to reload. These past two seasons she’s upgraded from a revolver to an AK and she’s not putting down her weapon. The hurricanes, the flooding, the ****ing mold and everything else it brings - it’s coming again and again - and we’re not stopping greenhouse emissions, we’re not even reducing, we’re cranking it the **** up! Even those of us directly in the line of fire are loading Mother Nature’s weapons for her. It’s game the **** over. We lost.

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Originally Posted by [MERIT]

A Fire Captain with 28 years of experience believes that California's fires were caused by directed energy weapons.

"It's not natural phenomena. I've never seen anything like it."

^ Sorry [MERIT], but I found this too long to watch, esp as he spends about 10 mins giving us a CV on his past experience, I suppose to try and give weight to his opinion, bolded above. But in a period of drastic climate change, that declaration is now becoming par for the course: in fact OH says the same, though to his credit he doesn't attribute the change to directed energy weapons.
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Well, fuck. How would you answer that question?

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Yes, I considered DnWthVwl's question for about a minute before realising that it was way too difficult for me and belonged more properly in a philosophy thread rather than here.

OccultHawk · 12-11-2018, 05:09 AM

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OH says the same, though to his credit he doesn't attribute the change to directed energy weapons

Since we know what’s causing it with absolute certainty I decided to run with it.

Oriphiel · 12-11-2018, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

**Frownland** · 12-11-2018, 07:34 AM

I asked a firefighter with 29 years of experience and he said that extremely dry conditions creating more dead vegetation than usual, PG&E's unethical practices, poor forest management, and Santa Ana winds contributed to the explosiveness of the recent wildfires.

It also doesn't take a firefighter's knowledge of wildfires to know that they're not predictable.

~~MicShazam~~ · 12-11-2018, 07:37 AM

Forest fires are notoriously hard to keep under control. But why go with the obvious when you can find a much more obtuse explanation for everything.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 12-11-2018, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

why go with the obvious when you can find a much more obtuse explanation for everything.

Maybe DEW insurance pays out more than brush fire insurance?

DwnWthVwls · 12-11-2018, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT]

Well, fuck. How would you answer that question?

Which one? I asked a couple and your response had one.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 12-11-2018, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Which one? I asked a couple and your response had one.

I dunno. I'm too old for this shit.

Lisnaholic · 12-16-2018, 07:03 AM

In case you haven't been following it, The International Climate Change Conference in Poland has just concluded with almost 200 countries agreeing to advance the promise of good intent laid out in the Paris agreement. They now have a rulebook about how to measure and implement controls, but any optimism is tinged with a lot of caution: Is it gonna be too little too late?

Most ringing soundbite comes from sixteen-year-old Greta Thunberg, in her reprimand to world leaders:-

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"You say you love your children above all else and yet you are stealing their future in front of their very eyes."

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12-11-2018, 07:37 AM	#306 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,636	Forest fires are notoriously hard to keep under control. But why go with the obvious when you can find a much more obtuse explanation for everything.