Originally Posted by Lilja

That is my whole point (or one of them). Polls change nothing. People can talk, talk or type all they want but most peoples actions change nothing most just go around their day to day lives changing nothing about them. It is like all the Trump threads. People can say all they want about how horrible he is but in the end, these same people just talk alot or type alot without doing a darn thing. That's it. Then they go back to their day to day existence.

Sure the children will have a worse existence then the previous one. But that is usually not what pops into people's heads when they choose to buy imported foods which leave massive carbon footprints or plastic bags and the like. But it was cheap.

I would think it is just as hard an existence for those people in the US who live near coal-fired power plants and the like. But in the end, the plant still exist because someone is buying power produced from them.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.