The Environmental Watchdog MasterThread

Ayn Marx · 06-17-2022, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

He's a contrarian.

As in a contrarian investment strategy that involves bucking against existing market trends to generate profits.?

**Frownland** · 06-17-2022, 11:45 AM

-rockabilly enthusiast

TheBig3 · 06-17-2022, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

He helps bring diversity of opinion when it's bad take o'clock.

I don't know if...

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Cage (and I'm sure some of his contemporaries I'm just not familiar with) provide a path forward for classical but most everyone is still learning/listening to the kind that's completely outdated and irrelevant

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Ayn Marx · 06-17-2022, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Cage (and I'm sure some of his contemporaries I'm just not familiar with) provide a path forward for classical but most everyone is still learning/listening to the kind that's completely outdated and irrelevant

Cage a path forward? How does he provide that when his ‘music' goes nowhere ?
One the other hand he could be comforting for those with the short term focus of a gnat.

**Frownland** · 06-17-2022, 04:22 PM

You could use a path forward or two tbh

jadis · 06-18-2022, 11:39 AM

Don't entirely agree with Elph but there's a grain of truth there: you can't separate art from the context in which it is produced, consumed, distributed etc and the institution of "classical music" nowadays is a braindead and everything else dead rotting corpse.

The taste and aesthetic sensibility of the average concertgoer (who is most likely a middle aged lawyer) are straight up r-worded. It speaks volumes that the kind of popular music that's catered to them is the "classical crossover" of Sarah Brightman, Andrea Bocelli, Lara Fabian, Il Divo etc. Increasingly, classical performers adopt a similarly kitschy and embarrassing aesthetic (Khatia Buniatishvili, HAUSER etc).

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Originally Posted by Ayn Marx

What are you trying to say? That your attention span is limited to 4 Mins 33 seconds ?

Wonder how you’d cope with an entire weekend which is how long it takes to perform Wagner’s Ring Cycle ?

The reference understander

Psy-Fi · 06-19-2022, 05:17 AM

Environmental groups sue Biden to block 3,500 oil and gas drilling permits

Lisnaholic · 06-19-2022, 08:10 AM

The Biden admin could be doing more to fulfill their campaign promises about drilling, but right now they are caught in an unprecedentedly hard place, with the sudden ban on Russian oil and people complaining about prices at the pumps.

Here's an at-a-glance guide to what's been going on:-

(That sudden dip from Trump's peak shows the effect of the pandemic, more than Trump's remorse over tribal lands and environmental damage - at least, that's how I read it.)

rubber soul · 06-19-2022, 08:50 AM

Let's face it, humans aren't known for their forward thinking.

Lisnaholic · 06-19-2022, 09:59 AM

^ Yes, that's a real worry - and what's worse is that some plans put in place in the past, that seemed pretty forward thinking at the time, are now barely adequate for the new circs. This Lake Mead/Hoover Dam update has some interesting details about good intentions being thwarted:-

06-17-2022, 11:45 AM	#922 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	-rockabilly enthusiast __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

06-17-2022, 04:22 PM	#925 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	You could use a path forward or two tbh __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

06-19-2022, 08:10 AM	#928 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	The Biden admin could be doing more to fulfill their campaign promises about drilling, but right now they are caught in an unprecedentedly hard place, with the sudden ban on Russian oil and people complaining about prices at the pumps. Here's an at-a-glance guide to what's been going on:- (That sudden dip from Trump's peak shows the effect of the pandemic, more than Trump's remorse over tribal lands and environmental damage - at least, that's how I read it.) __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

06-19-2022, 09:59 AM	#930 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	^ Yes, that's a real worry - and what's worse is that some plans put in place in the past, that seemed pretty forward thinking at the time, are now barely adequate for the new circs. This Lake Mead/Hoover Dam update has some interesting details about good intentions being thwarted:- __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953