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Anteater 04-23-2019 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2053344)
Nope. That's a poor excuse for accelerating gentrification though.

Not really: it was just an observation. I've lived in north Texas for decades. Housing market is pretty crazy, but I have African-American and Korean-American neighbors who live in houses that cost the same as mine and who appear to be raising families of their own. If that's "gentrification", then let's have more of that.

OccultHawk 04-23-2019 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2053350)
Not really: it was just an observation. I've lived in north Texas for decades. Housing market is pretty crazy, but I have African-American and Korean-American neighbors who live in houses that cost the same as mine and who appear to be raising families of their own. If that's "gentrification", then let's have more of that.

There’s been an increase in rent and homelessness where I live. Let’s have less of that.

Anteater 04-23-2019 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2053352)
There’s been an increase in rent and homelessness where I live. Let’s have less of that.

I'm surprised people aren't lobbing Molotovs at city hall over that tbh.


Going back to Portland for a sec: housing costs in Portland are high today because you have more and more people working remote jobs for Silicon Valley companies, and they are buying up cheaper properties but netting California salaries. Gentrification might have played some role prior to the last five or ten years, but I'm pretty sure some black guy could get remote work in Portland as easily as some rando white dude.

Some of this is explored in the article below, but there are plenty of others I looked at that talk about it as well.

https://money.cnn.com/2016/02/05/pf/...le-california/

Frownland 04-23-2019 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2053347)
I agree with you but the only measure against gentrification that I can think of is rent control. Well you can also vandalize rich people’s property but anyway

How do we fight against gentrification?

I also feel like I’ve caused gentrification especially in Portland

I lived in Portland early to mid 90’s and that white youthful hipster presence played a big role in making those neighborhoods prohibitively expensive for many people just a few years later

I wonder if anyone has ever studied Nirvana’s role in the gentrification of the entire Pacific Northwest

Promoting community participation, affordable housing programs, and redevelopment.

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2053350)
Not really

No, the false dilemma of a neighbourhood remaining eternally poor is definitely a poor excuse for accelerating gentrification.

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2053350)
But I have a black friend.

I'm happy for you.

OccultHawk 04-23-2019 04:56 PM

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Promoting community participation, affordable housing programs, and redevelopment.
Redevelopment of what? No sarcasm. Serious question.

Frownland 04-23-2019 04:58 PM

Tear down mansions, strip malls, and government plots to make room for several modest homes and/or apartments.

OccultHawk 04-23-2019 04:58 PM

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Going back to Portland for a sec: housing costs in Portland are high today because you have more and more people working remote jobs for Silicon Valley companies, and they are buying up cheaper properties but netting California salaries.
Those people want to live in Portland because it was originally culturally enriched by people like me.

OccultHawk 04-23-2019 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2053357)
Tear down mansions, strip malls, and government plots to make room for several modest homes and/or apartments.

Church

rostasi 04-23-2019 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2053359)
Church

Yeah, those too.

The Batlord 04-23-2019 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2053357)
Tear down mansions, strip malls, and government plots to make room for several modest homes and/or apartments.

With axes? How does this work?


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