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Old 07-31-2019, 04:32 PM   #2501 (permalink)
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Why? Why should I be entitled to get anything for any reason? Why aren't the capitalists entitled to enslave us? Why am I not entitled to more than what I'm getting now?
You're entitled to what you agree to work for because that is basically the amount of leverage you bring to the table. At any point if it isn't worth it you can leave. This is all really very simple

If you have a house you want to sell and you hire a guy to paint it for 2 Grand and he's happy with that rate, you're happy with that rate, and it ends up getting you an extra 15k when you sell the house, have you robbed him?
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Old 07-31-2019, 05:00 PM   #2502 (permalink)
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You're entitled to what you agree to work for because that is basically the amount of leverage you bring to the table. At any point if it isn't worth it you can leave. This is all really very simple

If you have a house you want to sell and you hire a guy to paint it for 2 Grand and he's happy with that rate, you're happy with that rate, and it ends up getting you an extra 15k when you sell the house, have you robbed him?
Why does leverage entitle you to anything? If you have leverage you don't need to be entitled to something, your leverage just gets it for you.
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Old 07-31-2019, 05:12 PM   #2503 (permalink)
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That's sorta what I mean though as far as the job market goes, what you have coming to you is what you can force them to give you.

And btw you didn't answer my question. Surprise, surprise.

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My dad specifically negotiated contracts with home owners in just this fashion. Either answer the question or don't. It's getting a bit tiring answering all your questions just to have you dodge mine
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Old 07-31-2019, 05:16 PM   #2504 (permalink)
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That's not an answer.
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Old 07-31-2019, 05:21 PM   #2505 (permalink)
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That's sorta what I mean though as far as the job market goes, what you have coming to you is what you can force them to give you.
I mean in this case "entitled" is a synonym for "deserving" which gives this issue a moral implication and not simply one of leverage.

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And btw you didn't answer my question. Surprise, surprise.
Because I didn't really read it cause I didn't care.
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is it not obvious he got ripped off?

if the house is directly worth 15k more

some people are happy to get ripped off
so the guy should've paid him 15k instead?
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I mean in this case "entitled" is a synonym for "deserving" which gives this issue a moral implication and not simply one of leverage.



Because I didn't really read it cause I didn't care.
then go **** yourself. Can't be bothered to take this seriously if you won't.
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Okay.
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So what should the home owner have paid him, iyo.

Please just answer and quit dodging.

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How much did he pay his realtor
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