Political Discussions for "Adults"

The Batlord · 08-07-2019, 08:08 AM

I just wanna live in Judge Dredd's world where everyone lives in skyscraper slums, nobody has a job, everybody gets welfare, illiteracy is almost total, and I even get some ****ing Nazis to grumble about.

~~jwb~~ · 08-07-2019, 08:54 AM

Some people who retire or just go on welfare end up depressed because they no longer have any sense of purpose or drive. People like to feel useful. If we end up in a post-job world a lot of people will have to find new productive ways to occupy their time. Young men in particular tend to turn to destructive habits when they don't have anything better to do.

The Batlord · 08-07-2019, 08:57 AM

Joining a roving gang of empty youths sounds better than this.

**Frownland** · 08-07-2019, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb

Some people who retire or just go on welfare end up depressed because they no longer have any sense of purpose or drive. People like to feel useful. If we end up in a post-job world a lot of people will have to find new productive ways to occupy their time. Young men in particular tend to turn to destructive habits when they don't have anything better to do.

Ja, recovering from enslavement can be tough for some people who don't know how to occupy their time.

~~jwb~~ · 08-07-2019, 09:38 AM

I'm just saying I don't exactly fantasize about sitting around on welfare. I know exactly the kind of **** I would get up to.

**Frownland** · 08-07-2019, 09:55 AM

I wouldn't just sit around either.

~~jwb~~ · 08-07-2019, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I wouldn't just sit around either.

What would you do?

**Frownland** · 08-07-2019, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb

What would you do?

Take my music very seriously, chill and travel with friends, smoke, write a novel, meet people, fish, garden, camp, cook, drink, learn all the time, dick around on MB, hack away at my huge list of movies I want to watch/music I want to listen to, read, make instruments...

What you describe is what happens when you don't have goals or structure in your life. A job is a good almost hands free way of getting that since someone else is more or less in charge of that structure, but it's not the only way to get that fulfillment.

~~jwb~~ · 08-07-2019, 11:27 AM

I agree. Some of what you listed are examples of the sort of productive ways to occupy your time that I was talking about. Others are more like the sort of self indulgent, hedonistic impulses that I have trouble with when I don't stay occupied.

**Frownland** · 08-07-2019, 11:51 AM

Ja, hedonism only really works if you remember to eat your vegetables too.

08-07-2019, 09:55 AM	#2756 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	I wouldn't just sit around either. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

08-07-2019, 11:51 AM	#2760 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Ja, hedonism only really works if you remember to eat your vegetables too. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

08-07-2019, 08:54 AM	#2752 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Some people who retire or just go on welfare end up depressed because they no longer have any sense of purpose or drive. People like to feel useful. If we end up in a post-job world a lot of people will have to find new productive ways to occupy their time. Young men in particular tend to turn to destructive habits when they don't have anything better to do.

08-07-2019, 09:38 AM	#2755 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	I'm just saying I don't exactly fantasize about sitting around on welfare. I know exactly the kind of **** I would get up to.

08-07-2019, 11:27 AM	#2759 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	I agree. Some of what you listed are examples of the sort of productive ways to occupy your time that I was talking about. Others are more like the sort of self indulgent, hedonistic impulses that I have trouble with when I don't stay occupied.