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Marie Monday 08-13-2019 08:58 AM

How? I'd sincerely like to hear your answer
To Frowns questions I mean

Frownland 08-13-2019 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2071976)
Its almost like you read nothing and decided to comment. Hmm.

You're referring to me not addressing your attempt to define nonbinary people by the imaginary self-aggrandizing trendhopper, right?

DwnWthVwls 08-13-2019 09:53 AM

Nah. I said special title not special treatment. Pronoun usage aside i dont think they ask for much but its pretty hilarious they get lumped with lgbtq who actually have been historically marginalized. People who are different from normal social structures all deal with bullying and pressure, child/adult/man/woman, anyone who isnt cis gender is probably being targeted because theyre “weird” and mostly make no sense not because they arent cis (in most cases, no one would even know if they didnt say anything). Im not justifying this behavior towards them but i also dont think they need their own gender in the infinite spectrum. What does it mean to you when someone tells you they are nonbinary? That literally tells me nothing about them other then they might wanna be called something different, which im fine with cause i dont go out of my way to disrespect people.

Heres a couple examples of things i feel like i shouldnt do in society because ill probably have to deal with ****:
-not acknowledge the pledge of allegiance
-be openly athiest
-not respecting the military

Frownland 08-13-2019 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2071992)
Nah. I said special title not special treatment.

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2071970)
Thanks Frown, ive always wanted special treatment.

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anyone who isnt cis gender is probably being targeted because theyre “weird” and mostly make no sense not because they arent cis
What are you basing that on?

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I'm not justifying this behavior towards them but i also dont think they need their own gender in the infinite spectrum.
If it's an infinite spectrum, what's the harm in pinpointing spots on that spectrum?

I'm with Marie and grindy that gender identity tends to enforce gender roles more than thwart them and that people should just be themselves instead of basing their behaviour/identity on their sex.

DwnWthVwls 08-13-2019 10:19 AM

i agree with marie and grindy too. So whats the problem?

And pinpointing? There isnt some actual spectrum everyone agrees on or actual method to gender characterization. It doesnt pinpoint **** its mostly arbitrary with some minor guidelines.

And im basing it on my experience in the real world and my short time in the kink community where nonbinary genders were abundant.

Frownland 08-13-2019 10:21 AM

I was mainly responding to your claim that nonbinary people aren't marginalized.

DwnWthVwls 08-13-2019 10:31 AM

Yeah and again. They arent any more marginalized then other people that have quirks which deem them weird by societal standards. It seems like a gross false equivalency the compare to treatment of lgbtq and blacks to that of those claiming to be nonbinary.

Frownland 08-13-2019 10:36 AM

Comparing lgbtq with lgbtq seems like a pretty exact equivalency but that's just me.

DwnWthVwls 08-13-2019 10:39 AM

Theyre a modern attachment that got lumped in. Seriously, youre going to compare misgendering to the disgusting treatment of gay people prior to the modern gender dilemma?

Frownland 08-13-2019 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2072008)
Seriously, youre going to compare misgendering to the disgusting treatment of gay people prior to the modern gender dilemma?

Uh no. Are you?


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