Political Discussions for "Adults"

~~jwb~~ · 08-08-2019, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebulous Passion

Are you saying the right doesn't belong in this camp?
Taxes bad. Gun Laws bad. Abortion rights bad.
No exceptions on these issues. While if you take the big issue for Democrats right now, Healthcare, there are a range of ideas being talked about from Single Payer with private insurance banned, to just a public option or an Obamacare expansion.

Not really, no. The right would never give Steven Crowder **** for talking to some leftist. I mean there are exceptions and tribal behavior can prop up in any group, but the criticism I gave was based on and designed for the left. Very typical that the response to this is "we'll what about the right?" No, let's talk about your side for a second instead of instantly deflecting.

**Frownland** · 08-08-2019, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebulous Passion

When The Right gets behind something they seem to be absolutely uniform in that political conviction, probably to their benefit. Unless we're considering The Left to only be strident college aged Bernie socialists, I don't see the same level of purity.

What's the benefit of letting blue tie conservatives muddle the uniformity of the genuine left?

~~Nebulous Passion~~ · 08-08-2019, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

Not really, no. The right would never give Steven Crowder **** for talking to some leftist. I mean there are exceptions and tribal behavior can prop up in any group, but the criticism I gave was based on and designed for the left. Very typical that the response to this is "we'll what about the right?" No, let's talk about your side for a second instead of instantly deflecting.

Who says it's my side? I'm just going to be critical of a joke like Steven Crowder as a rational person should be.
The Right has its own problems with free speech, Colin Kaepernick? They've also made it a kind of taboo to simply call something that is racist, what it is.

**Frownland** · 08-08-2019, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

Not really, no. The right would never give Steven Crowder **** for talking to some leftist. I mean there are exceptions and tribal behavior can prop up in any group, but the criticism I gave was based on and designed for the left. Very typical that the response to this is "we'll what about the right?" No, let's talk about your side for a second instead of instantly deflecting.

The right's attempt to stifle opposing opinions typically comes in the form of telling a celebrity voicing their opinion to shut up and dance or they'll boycott their sneaker sponsor.

But let's look at what you actually said that you designed for the left

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Originally Posted by jwb

the left is becoming borderline mccarthyist the way they categorize anyone who talks to anyone they disagree with as the enemy

Bunch of limp wristed ideological puritans

This obviously exists in spades on the left, but you genuinely don't see similar partisan demonization coming from the right?

The Batlord · 08-08-2019, 03:09 PM

Remember when Glenn Beck was the right's golden boy? Remember when he came out against Trump? Where is he now? Same place as the Dixie Chicks?

OccultHawk · 08-08-2019, 03:10 PM

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Remember when Glenn Beck was the right's golden boy? Remember when he came out against Trump? Where is he now? Same place as the Dixie Chicks?

Glenn Beck is tied up naked in my closet???

~~jwb~~ · 08-08-2019, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebulous Passion

Who says it's my side? I'm just going to be critical of a joke like Steven Crowder as a rational person should be.
The Right has its own problems with free speech, Colin Kaepernick? They've also made it a kind of taboo to simply call something that is racist, what it is.

More deflecting.

I didn't say the right doesn't react to ideas they they don't like. But the statement I made about checking allies for ideological purity based on who they talk to is something I'm seeing specifically on the left and specifically related to the Rogan topic. So I don't need to go look for a right wing equivalent when calling that out. Either you can defend it or you can't. So far you're just deflecting.

~~jwb~~ · 08-08-2019, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

The right's attempt to stifle opposing opinions typically comes in the form of telling a celebrity voicing their opinion to shut up and dance or they'll boycott their sneaker sponsor.

But let's look at what you actually said that you designed for the left

This obviously exists in spades on the left, but you genuinely don't see similar partisan demonization coming from the right?

Not in the specific way I mentioned... But honestly I'm just tired of the defense always being to point to what the other side does. That really doesn't excuse what you choose to do.

~~Nebulous Passion~~ · 08-08-2019, 03:45 PM

It doesn't look to me that the criticism is simply that he has someone like that on the show. It's that his tone legitimizes a range of pretty asinine ideas. Do anti-vaxxers or climate change deniers, for example, really deserve a seat at the table?
It's not a Milton Friedman like character that gets people bent out of shape.

OccultHawk · 08-08-2019, 03:46 PM

But the right does it too!!!!

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~~Nebulous Passion~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 16	It doesn't look to me that the criticism is simply that he has someone like that on the show. It's that his tone legitimizes a range of pretty asinine ideas. Do anti-vaxxers or climate change deniers, for example, really deserve a seat at the table? It's not a Milton Friedman like character that gets people bent out of shape.