Political Discussions for "Adults"

Anteater · 11-16-2019, 07:09 PM

I was okay with Bernie in 2016, but he got steamrolled pretty early in the game.

**Frownland** · 11-16-2019, 07:09 PM

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I've already been real about it. I'm the grown up a room full of screaming babies who whine about change but don't like being told that the only way for real change to happen is for someone like Trump to run wild for awhile.

Don't break an arm jacking yourself off. Chula's the only one here who aligns with the bogeyman leftist that you're strawmanning as an attempt to elevate your conservative talking points. Everyone else seems hip to the concept that partisanship is a mental illness, but don't let that keep you from totes pwning those cucks.

Even still, what does that have to do with the validity of "butwudabowtbyden" as reasoning for the impeachment being an imminent failure?

Anteater · 11-16-2019, 07:18 PM

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Don't break an arm jacking yourself off. Chula's the only one here who aligns with the bogeyman leftist that you're strawmanning as an attempt to elevate your conservative talking points. Everyone else seems hip to the concept that partisanship is a mental illness, but don't let that keep you from totes pwning those cucks.

Even still, what does that have to do with the validity of "butwudabowtbyden" as reasoning for the impeachment being an imminent failure?

Can you do something other than speak in blanket generalities? It's really tiresome fam.. I'm looking over the last few pages and I don't recall bringing up any "conservative talking points" other than pointing out the fact that Biden is relevant to the impeachment discussion because he and Burisma were mentioned in the phone call with Trump and the Ukrainian president.

I've already explained why Biden is relevant to these hearings and how the Republicans will be cross-examining witnesses of their choosing. A lot of them will have things to say about the Bidens, Burisma, etc. Unless you want impeachment to fail, 20+ Republican senators are going to need to change their minds or Trump's narrative ("Biden was corrupt and he's running in 2020, his family has ties to Ukraine, China, etc. so it was justified that I look into him for national security reasons") is going to be vindicated by the Senate.

Anteater · 11-16-2019, 07:35 PM

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if Hillary ran again I'd risk the felony smuggling in immigrants to vote for her

You'd still have to pay off student debt tho.

Anteater · 11-16-2019, 07:45 PM

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whatever it takes to upset the people that hate her so much

I'll saw my own arm off

the reaction is like frothing dogs

it would be amazing if she were president

She might actually run again in 2020. You'd pick her over Biden?

The Batlord · 11-16-2019, 07:55 PM

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whatever it takes to upset the people that hate her so much

I'll saw my own arm off

the reaction is like frothing dogs

it would be amazing if she were president

She's neoliberal trash, stop overcompensating for your ****ty attitude toward women.

**Frownland** · 11-16-2019, 08:00 PM

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Can you do something other than speak in blanket generalities? It's really tiresome fam.. I'm looking over the last few pages and I don't recall bringing up any "conservative talking points" other than pointing out the fact that Biden is relevant to the impeachment discussion because he and Burisma were mentioned in the phone call with Trump and the Ukrainian president.

Actions>>words. I'm not buying your sales pitch.

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I've already explained why Biden is relevant to these hearings and how the Republicans will be cross-examining witnesses of their choosing. A lot of them will have things to say about the Bidens, Burisma, etc.

Neat!

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20+ Republican senators are going to need to change their minds

Cool. So do you have anything to say in response the points I actually made or are you just going to keep practicing your argument with some bogeyman leftist in your life?

Anteater · 11-16-2019, 08:22 PM

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Cool. So do you have anything to say in response the points I actually made or are you just going to keep practicing your argument with some bogeyman leftist in your life?

You didn't make any points. I answered your question pages ago when you brought up Chula's comments on the Trump impeachment hearings magically removing him from office somehow before his Senate trial. You needed Biden's relevance to these hearings explained to you.

I'm pointing out what Republicans are saying and what they're going to do once this gets to the Senate. You seem to somehow take that as me making a "moral equivalence" between Biden and Trump. One person's bad activities in the past shouldn't excuse someone else's present activities.

However, real life isn't that simple and we are seeing it play out in realtime. It's like a neverending cycle of vengeance. The Democrats feel wronged by the Republicans, and the Republicans feel wronged by something the Democrats did previously. And thus the ante continuously gets upped and the partisan divide widens.

Chula Vista · 11-16-2019, 08:27 PM

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I don't recall bringing up any "conservative talking points" other than pointing out the fact that Biden is relevant to the impeachment discussion because he and Burisma were mentioned in the phone call with Trump and the Ukrainian president.

So, Trump mentions a debunked conspiracy theory and that makes it relevent?

Again, you realize that Biden in this particular instance is not Joe Biden, it's the democratic front runner. If Biden was getting smoked by Warren he would have found something to bring up about her.

Watching 'Nixon on Nixon'. Damn, if Fox had been around back then he might have gotten away with it!

**Frownland** · 11-16-2019, 08:30 PM

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I answered your question pages ago

Poorly.

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I'm pointing out what Republicans are saying

Yes, we're well aware that you're parroting conservative talking points.