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OccultHawk 04-20-2020 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2113765)
tbf it's a low bar to be the best American president

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OccultHawk 04-20-2020 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2113767)
like don't get me mistaken, there were still bad bad international crimes committed under Carter's administration

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Anteater 04-20-2020 09:09 PM


TheBig3 04-21-2020 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2113764)
I watched that debate live as a kid and even then I could see through his bull****.

His big win is one thing among millions that prove America deserves no place in this world.

I thought this was a thread for adults. With comments like that, I think we should change the title.

The concept that America is the worst country in history, and that somehow we've cheated our way to the top is analogous to "The moon landing was faked."

It's not a position that warrants thoughtful discussion. It's just entitled virtue signaling in which the goal is "I want to tell everyone I'm very smart and morally upright." But it isn't factual.

If there's any reason to look at American's with disdain, it's their laziness when it comes to their civil duty.

OccultHawk 04-21-2020 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 2113814)
I thought this was a thread for adults. With comments like that, I think we should change the title.

The concept that America is the worst country in history, and that somehow we've cheated our way to the top is analogous to "The moon landing was faked."

It's not a position that warrants thoughtful discussion. It's just entitled virtue signaling in which the goal is "I want to tell everyone I'm very smart and morally upright." But it isn't factual.

If there's any reason to look at American's with disdain, it's their laziness when it comes to their civil duty.

How many corny cliches can you fit in one post?

grindy 04-21-2020 09:35 AM

I don't think it's that controversial to say that no country had more of a negative impact on the world than the United States in the last decades.

OccultHawk 04-21-2020 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 2113816)
I don't think it's that controversial to say that no country had more of a negative impact on the world than the United States in the last decades.

Thank you!

Frownland 04-21-2020 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 2113814)
The concept that America is the worst country in history, and that somehow we've cheated our way to the top is analogous to "The moon landing was faked."

Eh, the biggest contributor to American dominance is the bombing of Hiroshima and an absurd military force that's used to hold the world hostage. That allowed us to partake in a lot of global exploitative behaviour that amounts to imperialism. Domestically, the oligarchy doesn't exactly strike me as fair and square.

Congratulations on being a grown up, but don't use that as an excuse to ignore the very real terrible **** that America is built on.

jwb 04-21-2020 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2113764)
I watched that debate live as a kid

what a nerd.

jwb 04-21-2020 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2113819)
Eh, the biggest contributor to American dominance is the bombing of Hiroshima and an absurd military force that's used to hold the world hostage. That allowed us to partake in a lot of global exploitative behaviour that amounts to imperialism. Domestically, the oligarchy doesn't exactly strike me as fair and square.

Congratulations on being a grown up, but don't use that as an excuse to ignore the very real terrible **** that America is built on.

Winning ww2 was what put us on top, and now all of a sudden having an empire is "wrong" according to the Europeans of all people! Sore losers.


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