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Old 04-27-2020, 01:28 PM   #5851 (permalink)
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It's not like they're going to diddle him.
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Old 04-28-2020, 07:28 AM   #5852 (permalink)
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I'm not on team trump, but if he wins I won't be sad
I won't try to guess your motivation behind these statements, but from over here it feels like the most callous calculation I could hear in 2020.


Only in the fiction where Obama "wasn't much different" than Trump can you excuse what's gone on in the past almost 4 years. I'm not going to rehash old arguments, but there's a level of detachment you need to have to not understand the gutting of American society that's going on here.

In my view, you can only believe Obama, Biden, Clinton, and Trump are the same when you stay on the surface and don't get into the details.
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Old 04-28-2020, 10:06 AM   #5853 (permalink)
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I won't try to guess your motivation behind these statements, but from over here it feels like the most callous calculation I could hear in 2020.


Only in the fiction where Obama "wasn't much different" than Trump can you excuse what's gone on in the past almost 4 years. I'm not going to rehash old arguments, but there's a level of detachment you need to have to not understand the gutting of American society that's going on here.

In my view, you can only believe Obama, Biden, Clinton, and Trump are the same when you stay on the surface and don't get into the details.

I guess my motivation behind the post is that I just want to stay out of everything and observe the conservative side vs the liberal side

I'll keep posting news from creditable sources online and if it makes trump appear good then it does, if it makes trump appear stupid asf.... so be it..
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Old 04-28-2020, 04:50 PM   #5854 (permalink)
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Michael Moore produced a film about climate change that’s a gift to Big Oil
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Old 04-28-2020, 05:04 PM   #5855 (permalink)
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Yet, the film Moore backed concludes that population control, not clean energy, is the answer. This is a highly questionable solution, which has more in common with anti-immigration hate groups than the progressive movement.
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Sorry that the truth doesn’t fit their political outline. Fewer people is the ONLY way. It’s some incredible **** that anyone who has ever been outside doesn’t understand this.
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Old 04-28-2020, 05:06 PM   #5856 (permalink)
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My only hope is that this film will be buried, and few will watch it or remember it
This reminds me of the people who complain about how famous the Kardashians are without realizing that they're the only ones who care enough about the family to sustain their fame.

I doubt the film will have much impact, Moore isn't relevant anymore and I'm pretty sure he's widely recognized to be more concerned with an entertaining product than accuracy.
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Old 04-28-2020, 05:11 PM   #5857 (permalink)
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What film has he made that wasn’t totally dead on?
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Michael Moore filmography

It's a symptom of the format more than Moore himself though. Dude's an entertainer first and foremost.
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I’ve only seen 4 of them but they were all great.
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Old 04-28-2020, 05:24 PM   #5860 (permalink)
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I haven't seen the film, but it is interesting that Moore would take this position

maybe the first time a film of his isn't "An everyman recites Chomsky but dumber" (I say that as a fan, Moore contributed to getting me into politics)
Given the set-up, I had to post my favorite Michael Moore take-down. [won't let me pick the starting point so jump to 4:42]
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