Political Discussions for "Adults"

OccultHawk · 07-10-2020, 07:11 PM

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Even you, a self-proclaimed opponent of capitalism, could have empathy for those people, no?

I don’t.

I want them treated like they were in China’s Cultural Revolution.

SGR · 07-10-2020, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I don’t.

I want them treated like they were in China’s Cultural Revolution.

You're the best dude. I don't care what anyone says, don't ever change. I'm popping open another beer for you right now, I'm gonna go Great Leap Forward on its ass and make it disappear.

The Batlord · 07-11-2020, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks

I don't know the scale of the violence yet and we probably won't until all this blows over - but there has definitely been violence. We don't know statistics yet on what group, if any, is most affiliated with the individuals or groups committing the violence (as far as I know). It seems to be more Antifa than BLM to me. I'm not just talking about violence against police but violence against private citizens.

An 8 year old girl was shot in Atlanta the other day near a BLM protest site. David Dorn, a private security guard in his '70s, responded to a call when looters broke in and he was shot and left to bleed out in the street so the looters could snag some TVs (the video is available on Twitter, I don't recommend watching if you have a weak stomach or frail heart). One of the statues that was torn down (was it Columbus or Jefferson? I honestly dont remember) landed on some guy's head - he was hospitalized in critical condition. There was that video of the old lady in the electric wheelchair who brandished a knife and tried to block a store entrance from looters. She was beaten. There's been others. Not to mention all of the destruction of private businesses.

If the public wanted peace we shouldn't have been content to do nothing while people of color were being shot dead in the street. And if they'd rather beg the Fascist in Chief to restore order than watch another liquor store burn then that just falls in line with the nothing they've been doing since the first African arrived on a slave ship. **** our order.

Lucem Ferre · 07-11-2020, 06:34 AM

I haven't seen any evidence of Antifa being involved in any significant way with BLM that isn't just the fact that people who oppose racism and police brutality also tend to oppose fascism.

Edit: And why do people insist on pretending to give a **** about local business during the riots when they didn't give a **** about them being destroyed by our fascist president's greedy and incompetent response to the pandemic? Also, small businesses are just as shady and exploitive as the huge ones.

debaserr · 07-11-2020, 08:16 AM

People talking about antifa like some bogeyman are heavily plugged in to conservative talking points.

debaserr · 07-11-2020, 08:21 AM

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One consistent hallmark of the Trump administration: The shameless are honored, while the honorable are shamed.

Friday evening, President Trump commuted the sentence of long-time crony Roger Stone, who was about to serve a 40-month sentence for lying to Congress about his knowledge of Russian communications to WikiLeaks during the 2016 campaign. Of course he did.

That followed Paul Manafort’s early release from prison and the dropping of Michael Flynn’s case by the Justice Department despite two guilty pleas.

Conversely, this week, Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, the former National Security Council staffer who testified about presidential malfeasance, was forced into early retirement due to White House bullying to block his promotion. Vindman earned a Purple Heart in Iraq among other commendations in a 20-year career.

Alas, he answered a House impeachment subpoena and testified to President Trump’s shakedown of Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky. To Trump, that made him toast.

Last month, the Navy confirmed the dismissal of Capt. Brett Crozier, who had been relieved of his command of the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt after writing higher-ups to alert them to a coronavirus outbreak that eventually infected a quarter of the 4,800 crew. Crozier’s dismissal was initially overturned, only to have the reinstatement dismissed.

Perfect poetic injustice: Crozier was fired by an acting Navy secretary because the Senate-confirmed secretary was forced out for trying to discipline disgraced Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher, who won a presidential pardon despite being convicted of war crimes.

Will America reelect a president who rewards corrupt loyalty and punishes honest service?

https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/...vyu-story.html

OccultHawk · 07-11-2020, 08:45 AM

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small businesses are just as shady and exploitive as the huge ones

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SGR · 07-11-2020, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

If the public wanted peace we shouldn't have been content to do nothing while people of color were being shot dead in the street.

Who's this "we" you are referring to? The majority of BLM protestors are white.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/how-w...racial-equity/

And every time there's a murder like that of George Floyd, there's tons of white people on the street protesting.

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that just falls in line with the nothing they've been doing since the first African arrived on a slave ship. **** our order.

Hundreds of thousands dead in the civil war, the ending of slavery, the civil rights movement, affirmative action, and decades of meaningful reform = nothing? I get it, America still has problems, and we've got a lot of them. But to say this country has done "nothing" in regards to the equitable treatment of minorities since the first African arrived on a slaveship is hyperbolic and disingenuous.

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People talking about antifa like some bogeyman are heavily plugged in to conservative talking points.

I would agree with this. Like I said, we don't know which, if any, group is most affiliated with the violence yet. We don't have the evidence yet required to confidently say that antifa is involved with the violence in a significant way. It's also possible that the violence is a result largely of individuals unaffiliated with any group.

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Also, small businesses are just as shady and exploitive as the huge ones.

How? In what way? How is the local restaurant owned by a family friend just as exploitve and shady as Walmart?

OccultHawk · 07-11-2020, 08:50 AM

This country has done nothing in regards to the equitable treatment of minorities since the first African arrived on a slave ship.

Lucem Ferre · 07-11-2020, 09:26 AM

They underpay and overwork people with **** benefits just so the owner can save money like the rest of em. You think being locally owned magically eliminates greediness?

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