Political Discussions for "Adults"

OccultHawk · 07-16-2020, 07:40 PM

https://freedomhouse.org/article/fre...ng-persecution

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“Freedom House commends the bipartisan efforts of lawmakers in the US Congress to address the crisis in Hong Kong and offer Hong Kongers options in the face of oppression and persecution,” said Michael J. Abramowitz, president of Freedom House. “Two pieces of proposed legislation—the Hong Kong Safe Harbor Act and the Hong Kong Freedom and Choice Act—will be critical to mitigating the short- and long-term effects of this human rights crisis, while sending a strong message to Beijing that the United States will not simply abandon the people of Hong Kong. We call on Congress to swiftly pass both of these bills into law.”

Complete capitalism equals freedom horse****

America extends a helping hand of freedom to Hong Kong? You might as well try to sell me on the idea that Ted Bundy was a feminist.

The Batlord · 07-16-2020, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

this is from awhile back, but I think Fascism is basically an extreme reactionary tendency to want to return to the pre-enlightenment era but with modern technology

when you have someone saying Fascism is "neither right nor left" I think there's a lack of clarity about what these words mean

I definitely believe that fasciscm is capitalism being scared of workers rising up into socialism. There's something more there about identity politics as product after capitalism has stripped the culture from a society but that's hard to pin down. In the first half of the 20th century it was real fear and that's why it was such an extreme reaction. Now capitalism is rightfully complacent about socialism and the left which is why its a much more subtle movement against the workers who very much realize that something is up that is writhing around them like a snake even if they can't recognize the feeling of scales after so long.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

https://freedomhouse.org/article/fre...ng-persecution

Complete capitalism equals freedom horse****

America extends a helping hand of freedom to Hong Kong? You might as well try to sell me on the idea that Ted Bundy was a feminist.

China doesn't make money through the barter system. They're Ted too.

OccultHawk · 07-16-2020, 09:14 PM

Fine. But the idea of America providing “asylum” is disgusting exceptionalism.

I’m fine with open borders to any country but there’s no mercy from horrific government in the United States.

Mexico is keeping the border closed.

rostasi · 07-16-2020, 09:18 PM

debaserr · 07-16-2020, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Wilhoit

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

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**Frownland** · 07-16-2020, 09:39 PM

That basically just means that they're Republicans who smoked weed in college and have a gay friend that they rarely talk to.

Anteater · 07-16-2020, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

You are not like Ant and Chula in the sense that you're a mainstream party hack. You are like them in the sense that you're mindlessly beholden to a political ideology that you have chosen. You are however likely beholden to your ideology probably because you're young and dumb and like to think you're a revolutionary of some sort or other. And you suck at debate.

That bitterness is so delicious. Dark chocolatey goodness for the soul. Love ya buddy.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

That basically just means that they're Republicans who smoked weed in college and have a gay friend that they rarely talk to.

Or they are left-leaning people who prefer Starbucks and convenience over a change in the economic status quo.

OccultHawk · 07-16-2020, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I've been thinking a lot about how people will identify as "socially liberal, economically conservative" and it gets taken seriously

it's not a serious position, it's a cover

It makes sense to people who don’t understand that property is theft.

Lucem Ferre · 07-16-2020, 10:35 PM

I'd take an Ant over Facebook tards any day.

Anteater · 07-16-2020, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

I'd take an Ant over Facebook tards any day.

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