Political Discussions for "Adults"

OccultHawk · 07-29-2020, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi

Biden calls for violent protesters to be ‘found, arrested and tried’

Basically the same as Trump’s position then.

SGR · 07-29-2020, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Basically the same as Trump’s position then.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

WWWP · 07-29-2020, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

American politics is R-word Downy Jr.ed.

Americans are R-word Downy Jr.ed.

Lol! Is this what prise feels like?

TheBig3 · 07-29-2020, 07:41 AM

What, in your opinion, is the Left postion on this? Allow violent protests to be ignored?

WWWP · 07-29-2020, 07:53 AM

Not ignored, encouraged. Burn it all down.

**Frownland** · 07-29-2020, 07:57 AM

Reporter: Do you support the Viet Cong?
Newton: Of course we support the Vietnamese people. Matter of fact–
Reporter: *Viet Cong
Newton: Oh. The Vietnamese people don't know what the word means and they've never used the word, so I don't know what it means.

Not going to speak for anyone else, but this exchange reflects how I view the issue of our "violent protests". It's a distractive tactic that attempt to keep violence at the centre of the conversation around the protests as opposed to what the protesters are saying. Discussing how we should address the scenario only entrenches the idea that these are not peaceful protests and concedes that they are a problem that needs to be "solved".

It's a variation of stupid playground trolling where you ask your friend something like "out of all of the guys you kissed, how many of them were gay?" to which they'll quickly respond "none of them!" and you're like lol so you've kissed dudes?

P.s. Property damage is not violence so burn it all down indeed.

The Batlord · 07-29-2020, 08:05 AM

I say we arrest the violent protesters so that we can have only likable protesters who make us feel like the voice of the people is being heard but who we nevertheless feel contempt for because they are weak and accomplish nothing. That's the kind of civil "unrest" that I want.

TheBig3 · 07-29-2020, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Reporter: Do you support the Viet Cong?
Newton: Of course we support the Vietnamese people. Matter of fact–
Reporter: *Viet Cong
Newton: Oh. The Vietnamese people don't know what the word means and they've never used the word, so I don't know what it means.

Not going to speak for anyone else, but this exchange reflects how I view the issue of our "violent protests". It's a distractive tactic that attempt to keep violence at the centre of the conversation around the protests as opposed to what the protesters are saying. Discussing how we should address the scenario only entrenches the idea that these are not peaceful protests and concedes that they are a problem that needs to be "solved".

It's a variation of stupid playground trolling where you ask your friend something like "out of all of the guys you kissed, how many of them were gay?" to which they'll quickly respond "none of them!" and you're like lol so you've kissed dudes?

P.s. Property damage is not violence so burn it all down indeed.

1. This is fair. I do think there's a concerted effort to make violence the center of the debate. And that's a dodge on the part of the power structure to avoid any substantive reform. That said, this isn't what Biden is saying. If anything, this statement imo does two things:

A. Defangs the Rights ability to say Biden supports riots.
B. Moves off the topic of violence to return to the issues of structural reform.

2. You and I had different playgrounds growing up.

**Frownland** · 07-29-2020, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

A. Defangs the Rights ability to say Biden supports riots.

In a way that's true, but I don't think that it will stop them or even be unsuccessful in their attempts. Turning lies or half truths into mantras via repetition is hot right now.

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B. Moves off the topic of violence to return to the issues of structural reform.

There's the lip service caveat he provides, but where else does he do this?

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2. You and I had different playgrounds growing up.

Ja I grew up around a bunch of rednecks and hopefully kids aren't as homophobic these days, but surely you see the logical similarities.

TheBig3 · 07-29-2020, 08:22 AM

Learn to take the joke my friend. You sound wound up.

I actually don't think Biden will be bad on these reforms. His entire campaign for President is because of the Black Community. And the party is moving hard in that direction. I'm more worried about his actions toward financial reform having been a defacto credit card lobbyist for his many years in the Senate.

But I wonder. If his position is such lip service on structural reforms, why do you suspect Black Americans voted for his so strongly?

07-29-2020, 07:57 AM	#7126 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Reporter: Do you support the Viet Cong? Newton: Of course we support the Vietnamese people. Matter of fact– Reporter: Viet Cong Newton: Oh. The Vietnamese people don't know what the word means and they've never used the word, so I don't know what it means. Not going to speak for anyone else, but this exchange reflects how I view the issue of our "violent protests". It's a distractive tactic that attempt to keep violence at the centre of the conversation around the protests as opposed to what the protesters are saying. Discussing how we should address the scenario only entrenches the idea that these are not peaceful protests and concedes that they are a problem that needs to be "solved". It's a variation of stupid playground trolling where you ask your friend something like "out of all of the guys you kissed, how many of them were gay?" to which they'll quickly respond "none of them!" and you're like lol so you've kissed dudes? P.s. Property damage is not violence so burn it all down indeed. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.* d e a f b o x

07-29-2020, 07:41 AM	#7124 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	What, in your opinion, is the Left postion on this? Allow violent protests to be ignored?

07-29-2020, 08:22 AM	#7130 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	Learn to take the joke my friend. You sound wound up. I actually don't think Biden will be bad on these reforms. His entire campaign for President is because of the Black Community. And the party is moving hard in that direction. I'm more worried about his actions toward financial reform having been a defacto credit card lobbyist for his many years in the Senate. But I wonder. If his position is such lip service on structural reforms, why do you suspect Black Americans voted for his so strongly?