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Originally Posted by Gutmensch (Post 2147593)

PS: Let me say as a European to you that hybris is the biggest problem of your country. I mean hybris is the problem of all countries more or less. But the more "powerful" a country is the more it has a problem with hybris.

Where the **** did you find that jank ass spelling of hubris? The Canterbury Tales?

Nah dude you're the one spelling it wrong cause you're a white cis het male who is ruining the planet with his factory farmed bananas

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2147604)

Where the **** did you find that jank ass spelling of hubris? The Canterbury Tales?

:laughing: top 10 recent Charles rants

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2147608)

Nah dude you're the one spelling it wrong cause you're a white cis het male who is ruining the planet with his factory farmed bananas

you forgot American

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2147485)

Hitchens was so so overrated

you could say the same to someone living in the UK when the Tories push for cuts to the NHS

Yes, Hitchens was overrated. And Nirvana was cringe. Call me when you've got the balls to take a position publically you'll be hated for.

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2147510)

I agree. That's why I disagree with liberals who criticize Trump's policy towards North Korea and seem to favor the traditional approach we've seen over the last few decades. Biden seems to be of that mindset.

I honestly think for all the talk of the dangers of supposedly legitimizing NK, Trump's basic tactic of trying to be friendly is more promising than what the establishment has been pursuing over the last few decades.

IIRC Clinton's position on N. Korea was to be friendly with them. A position 180'd by Bush who wanted to be the "tough on crime guy." And South Korea favors a Sunshine policy. It's only favorable to be anti-peace talks when a Republican follows a Democrat.

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Yes, Hitchens was overrated. And Nirvana was cringe. Call me when you've got the balls to take a position publically you'll be hated for.

I got a few.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2147637)

I got a few.

Yeah, I've seen. And while I disagree with them, at least you've got a stance.

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 2147633)

Yes, Hitchens was overrated. And Nirvana was cringe. Call me when you've got the balls to take a position publically you'll be hated for.

Stop demonizing the right wing working class who the liberal city dwellers see as redneck trash, abandon gun control that separates them from all of the left and reinforces conspiracy theories that foments militia culture, target the pharmeutical companies that cause the opiod epidemic that destroy working class belief in a better life, and encourage local level mutual aid that makes use of the kinds of communities fostered by militia culture.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2147645)

well "overrated" implies I'm taking a stance contrary to public opinion

On a message board no one comes to and where said opinion is very much supported.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2147644)

Stop demonizing the right wing working class who the liberal city dwellers see as redneck trash

The people who do this moved to the wealthy suburbs.

Saying Elph hasn't ever had a hot take is a hot take.

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 2147633)

uh not really. There was one failed attempt at an agreement under Clinton to get them to abandon their nuclear program. That was never going to actually happen, and still isn't.

In general the neoliberal consensus is not much different from the neocon consensus in this regard: NK is only worth diplomacy if they are willing to make serious concessions with regard to their nuclear ambitions. Otherwise, that's a deal breaker. So in that regard, Biden and Obama are more hawkish than Trump was on this one issue.