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Old 09-01-2017, 04:41 PM   #821 (permalink)
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Nope. Communism comes nowhere near close to being in line with the NAP.
NAP is so flexible that it's a waste of time. Any side can use its principles in any manner that fits their narrative. Pro-life vs. Pro-choice being a great example.

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A candidate that actually has a chance of being elected.

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Old 09-01-2017, 04:41 PM   #822 (permalink)
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You should try living in Virginia. We're moderate enough that it's reasonable to assume that everybody around you could go either way, until all of those people blindside you with Trump support when you least expect it.
I was in Florida at the time and I remember bringing my friend in to vote Sanders in the primary with me

Then getting a Trumper speech few months later from him it was very similar to a born again Christian friend I imagine
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Old 09-01-2017, 04:43 PM   #823 (permalink)
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Old 09-01-2017, 04:47 PM   #824 (permalink)
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A candidate that actually has a chance of being elected.

Status quo = living within reality
So you don't actually want an alternative.

If people didn't just automatically herp and derp about independents not having a chance when both parties are at historically low approval levels, maybe independent people who have more than one party's interests in mind would have a better chance.

Bow down to the war machine Chula. You made it by not confronting your reality. You should just start voting Republican tbh. Go full swing establishment homie.
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I think both mainstream sides are annoying as there's a lot of regional and culture war hoorahing like it's the civil war every 4 years (obviously i don't think they're equal though)

But I think it's possible now to have populist candidates on both sides sneak in through the establishment parties

I wouldn't say 3rd party is the way to go it's almost impossible in the current system
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= Don't vote abolitionist cause expecting the Southern states to give up their slaves isn't living within reality.
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Old 09-01-2017, 04:59 PM   #828 (permalink)
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But the alternative is Democrat policies. *shudders*
Ya, cause Dems just can't hang with relaxing EPA and OSHA regulations to increase corporate profits. Or admitting that climate change is a hoax. Or structuring taxes to benefit the rich based on the completely antiquated early 80s concept of "trickle down economics". Or shaming women with vaginal probes, shutting down abortion clinics, defunding Planned Parenthood simply based on the small percentage of their revenue that goes towards Pro-choice, dictating what people can or can't do in the privacy of their own bedrooms, taking LGBT rights back 25 years, massive redistricting and arcane voting rules to insure minorities have minimal influence on elections, a hawkish "you're either with us or against us" world stage stance, forcing God and the Bible on everyone while ignoring the "separation of church and state" mandates of our forefathers, ignoring the fact that their parents and/or grandparents were immigrants while pushing a white superiority platform behind close doors, pushing for privatization of SS, prisons, and anything else that can generate profits for fat cats with zero regard to the masses, and I could go on and on.

So Goof, humor me. How about a list of your top 10 fave GOP policies and your top 10 worst Dem policies?

Can you articulate it so that I can try and make sense of your ideological stance?
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Maybe not initially, but the real big hitters like HRC know how to negotiate to the point of ending up with conservative policy. That's what makes Democrats so great.
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So you don't actually want an alternative.
You ignore everything that doesn't fit your ridiculous narrative. I'm all for change. But I also accept the reality of USA politics.

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Like I said, toss away your vote all you want. It's a sucker's play but if it works for you, go for it.
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