I really wish there had been more done to protect afghans who were on the side of the US/NATO forces, not just by the US of course but by the whole alliance. These guys now risk or are being subjected to prosecution, execution and torture.

I assume the discussions are going in the US and I don't really know what's being said, but it does seem a pity that so much military equipment is now in the hands of taliban. I'm not saying it could've easily been prevented, but it's rough.

uh well when you immediately pull back any air support etc that also will contribute to the rate at which the enemy can advance. There are any number of contributing factors to how chaotic or bloody a withdrawal is. And if your only point is long term the govt wasnt sustainable then we don't disagree. But the Taliban out maneuvered not only the ANA but the US military as well. I don't have to invent any weakness to sneer at it is plain as day to the rest of the world exactly how embarrassing this whole ordeal was for the US. Sure the preceding 20 years contributes to that but it didn't end there unfortunately.

The intelligence was quite clearly flawed as Biden seemed to be under the impression we had much more time to work with and if you think he secretly knew it would fall over night that's actually worse since that would mean he not only lied to the public and our allies on the ground but that he failure to properly prepare for that reality despite having the intelligence necessary to do so.

The fact that after the initial blunder they stepped up the evacuation efforts and were more successful than previously only leads additional credence to the idea that they were initually ill prepared.

What are we going to do with air support? Hurt the Taliban's ears with sonic booms? We have a treaty with them. Do you want that last marine in that last helicopter to have to knife fight a jihadi just so he can close the door?

Dunno i was watching some video last night about reports from afghan troops on how their cities fell and one of the things they said was suddenly the air support just disappeared... Like i said I'm sure there are a number of contributing factors but yeah i do think it could have been planned and executed better and you don't... I dunno why you are being so obstinate here but you are tiring me out for sure so if that is your goal then mission accomplished soldier

Well you keep coming up with bunk suggestions. Bomb the Taliban we have a ceasefire with or never leave the failed state we're propping up. I mean you're watching all this cracker jack media coverage, you think they'd have some better ideas.

Lol once again you don't have to be a chef to know when a steak is overcooked bro. I've spelled out several times where there clearly seems to have been a problem and you just keep probing me with random questions looking for a gotcha moment that isn't coming. Get a hobby or something ffs

When you say we should bomb the people we have a ceasefire with it's pretty clear you don't know anything and are just following the media's lead, which sounds like a gotcha moment to me. And now you're coming at me with metaphors about steak?

Uh well have a ceasefire with who? The people blowing us up as we leave? Great gotcha moment lol.

For any non-americans wondering: yes, most americans are as brainwashed as jwb.

Are those not the people we have a ceasefire with or what? I don't think they got the memo lol