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The Batlord 07-11-2022 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2210113)
I mean I would but I take Covid misinformation very seriously

Hey did I mock you for going on about Alex Jones and Bohemian Grove?

Norg 07-11-2022 04:54 PM




MASTER TROLL :P

Norg 07-11-2022 04:59 PM

why did the US government kill JFK again like the reason ..???

SGR 07-11-2022 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Norg (Post 2210155)
why did the US government kill JFK again like the reason ..???

It's because he wanted to tell the American people the truth about J. Edgar Hoover and his proclivity to rub chunky peanut butter on his nipples and dance in petite women's lingerie every fortnight at dawn

The Batlord 07-11-2022 05:37 PM

I'd say the most rational CONSPIRACY reason would just be that he failed as an anti-communist by cancelling the air strikes on Cuban airfields during the Cuban Missile Crisis and the CIA wanted him out. Not that I'm a JFK conspiracist but the Allen Dulles era of the CIA was pretty insane and worthy of conspiracy theories.

Norg 07-11-2022 06:18 PM

never mind i found out pretty much


Money and power .....

The Batlord 07-11-2022 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Norg (Post 2210180)
never mind i found out pretty much


Money and power .....

Oh wow please tell us everything.

debaserr 07-11-2022 08:23 PM

I wouldn't put it past LBJ honestly. Dude was scary effective at backdoor maneuvers. I loved these books:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ye...Lyndon_Johnson

SGR 07-11-2022 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by debaserr (Post 2210209)
I wouldn't put it past LBJ honestly. Dude was scary effective at backdoor maneuvers. I loved these books:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ye...Lyndon_Johnson

One of the best biographies on a US President I've ever read. Can't wait for the next one.

I'm not sure how much I buy LBJ being involved, though he was conniving and calculated. I never read the book, but Roger Stone (yeah, that Roger Stone) wrote a book about the evidence that points to LBJ being involved. Here's a quote from Stone taken from a Salon interview - he's not a fan of the Caro books:

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Johnson's right-hand man, Secretary of the U.S. Senate Bobby Baker, says on Inaugural Day 1961, a very cold day, that John Kennedy will not live out his term and he will die a violent death. Johnson's motives are very clear. Not only was he being dumped from the ticket in 1964— indeed, Evelyn Lincoln, President Kennedy's personal secretary, says in her memoir he told her on the eve of leaving for Dallas that he was dumping Johnson— but Johnson was under investigation in two enormous scandals: the Bobby Baker scandal, Bobby Baker the Senate secretary was splitting bribes with Johnson, but more importantly, the Billie Sol Estes scandal.

Sol Estes was a flamboyant Texas wheeler-dealer and he and Johnson were involved in corrupt practices including federal contracts. Robert Caro wrote a four-volume biography of Lyndon Johnson but if you check the index there's no mention of Sol Estes, he's missing. I went and checked and in terms of coverage the Billie Sol Estes got twice the coverage at the time than the Baker scandal did, but it's been airbrushed out of history by Caro. Why? I'll tell you why: because Sol Estes, after he comes out of prison, has nothing to gain and informs the Justice Department of Johnson's involvement in the death of John F. Kennedy. Therefore, I presume, if Caro introduced the character he would have to tell the whole story, so it's better just to airbrush Billie Sol out of the picture.

Caro lies by omission; he should be stripped of his Pulitzer. He is intellectually dishonest, but he's more interested in going to the right Upper East Side cocktail party than he is in historical truth.
https://www.salon.com/2015/01/28/rog...gop_trickster/

Wikipedia gives a short and dirty on these allegations by Billie Sol Estes that Stone is referring to:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billie...edy_and_others

Take it all with a grain of salt, of course.

Mindy 07-15-2022 11:06 AM



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