Lucem Ferre

My friend hates that movie because of the fact that he spent so much time and effort just to get this revenge. He hates the idea of revenge.

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Art Is Dead. Buy My ****.

Frownland

It makes sense that he would hate the definitive revenge movie then.

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Zhanteimi

Titus Andronicus!

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Frownland

Senate Passes "Right to Try" Bill to Help Terminally Ill Patients Get Experimental Drugs

The way this bill is being reported: a victory for individual rights. People are no longer restricted from trying potentially life saving medicine!

What this bill actually is: allowing snake oil salesmen to sell their products as medicine so long as it isn't found to be immediately toxic in phase one of testing. In the event that the treatment is found to be dangerous in the long term, the bill has measures to protect any companies responsible for those side effects.

Should have been called the "right to exploit the vulnerable" bill. There will obviously be some cases where legitimate medical companies with less funding can benefit from this bill, but mark my words that this will result in more harm than good.

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Frownland

Someone argue with me about this scam, I'm all pissed off about it.

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Chula Vista

I think it's a good thing. First off, the patient is already terminally ill, i.e., going to die.

If they have the means why not let them grasp at any straw available?

The Goldwater Institute and the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network are on board - both non-profits. That's a sound endorsement in my mind.

And how many bills to do see get passed by unanimous consent? Not a single senator dissented.

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Frownland

Because people will knowingly put fake straws out there to make money off of those graspers. Appropriate straws for those people would be participating in clinical trials in the event that they don't have any other options. I see this bill as a means to weaken the FDA and protect unethical medicine/alternative mddicine practitioners. The way it's being framed as a way to help the terminally ill and not corporations is just sooooo disingenuous imo.

Also a little surprised that you support the Goldwater Institute (who wrote the bill) since they're quite firmly a conservative think tank. Nothing wrong with it, just surprised.

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Chula Vista

It's not like the straws won't already have undergone some scutiny. Big grey area between snake oil and FDA approved.

Where did I say I support the Goldwater Group? I just think them, as a non-profit, signing on doesn't hurt. And senator Ron Johnson wrote the bill. Yes, it does go along the lines of what the GG has been trying to do for years.

In this extreme partisan era, that fact that no democrats or independents opposed the bill counts for a bit more in my book than your typical cynical opinion of things.

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Goofle

Spot on Chula.

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Frownland

It would have to pass the first phase of clinical trials, yes. That first phase is testing the medicine on healthy humans to see if it is toxic in the short term. The second level of testing is on the efficacy of the drug, which is infinitely more important. The legislation opens the doors for snake oil because you can pass phase 1 and never pursue subsequent trials while still profiting off of your product.

They're a non-profit organization with crazy strong lobbying powers, placing them amongst organizations such as the NRA and Greenpeace. But who endorses it is not important to me, I'm discussing the actual content of the bill.

The last close to unanimous vote I remember was the Iraq war approval.

And even though I came to my own conclusions when I read about the legislation and what it did, I am far from alone in my views.

“This bill is inherently deceptive,” Alison Bateman-House, a medical ethicist at New York University who led the charge against Johnson’s bills, wrote in an email. “What [patients] have a right to (and did long before this bill) is to ask drug companies for permission to use their experimental drugs outside of clinical trials. If the drug company says no, both before and after this legislation, that's the final word: neither the FDA nor the courts have to power to make companies provide access to their experimental drugs-in-development.”

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