Frownland

Their reaction wouldn't be wide?

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TheBig3

Hey look man, I'm just out here jerking off publicly you know? It's a think-piece thing. You wouldn't get it.

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Frownland

Socrates vs Diogenes except they're both secretly Diogenes.

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TheBig3

Christ, what a mess that would be. You feel bad for the janitor. I'm not even sure who the "they're" are here, but I don't dislike anyone enough to say they're Diogenes. I don't think the hard Left is bad, I just wish they'd explore some nuance once in awhile. The far left...less so. There's too much racial motivation over there, but I would still politely try to explain why they're wrong to them.

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jwb

In the first 20 minutes I didn't honestly hear much that was very contentious. Yes the 2008 financial crisis was bad and the people responsible were never given real consequences. Yes this helped lead to the rise in populist politics with occupy on the left and the tea party on the right. None of this seems uniquely appealing to the DSA to me. I rarely hear or speak to anyone who disagrees with this.

Frownland

To clarify: you're Diogenes for publicly masturbating and I'm Diogenes for calling out bad logic like a dick.

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TheBig3

More about the concept of the working class getting sold out and gutted by the higher ups, I would have guessed would have been a welcome position.

Who knows, maybe I'm projecting, but the biggest gripe I have with the DNC, and the area I'm probably more aligned with the DSA on is the wild over financialization of the US. The Ivy Grads getting a degree in space aeronautics and working at McKinsey, every company regardless of sector offering you a credit card, the leveraged-buyout apocalypse putting people out of work.

I guess I was wrong. Oh well.

As long as you acknowledge you're a dick, I'm fine with it.

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Frownland

You have to admit that you're wrong first.

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The Batlord

I guess to ask what you're asking you'd have to assume the far left picked up on all that but had no other principles informing their choices and just kind of happened upon socialism as the first anti-bad people idea they'd ever heard, so it could just as easily been far right populism.

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Lucem Ferre

Bull**** it doesn't.

And it's because we aren't a petty fascist monolith who's sole goal is to stick it to the republicans. We have values and standards. While some of us are willing to sacrifice it in the name of the same petty game the fascists are playing, others aren't. And some just simply think universal health care is too far left despite it being hardly a nudge that way. We're just such a capitalist right wing **** tank that anything resembling a left leaning idea is thought of as communism or extreme. Bernie Sanders being considered far left is kind of laughable but they think Obama and the conservative ass Clintons are far left too.

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