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Frownland 01-28-2018 09:57 AM

Would be a good point if social influence wasn't such a big part of this discussion.

OccultHawk 01-28-2018 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1921310)
Would be a good point if social influence wasn't such a big part of this discussion.

Social influence does not exist outside of biology. So biology influences biology.

Once you start talking about social influence as if it’s non-biological you’re off in the mystic again.

Frownland 01-28-2018 10:13 AM

I don't disagree with that, but it's still far too reductionist imo because you're stripping away myriad relevant factors.

OccultHawk 01-28-2018 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1921324)
I don't disagree with that, but it's still far too reductionist imo because you're stripping away myriad relevant factors.

I’m taking the woo out of it so it can be discussed correctly.

Frownland 01-28-2018 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1921328)
I’m taking the woo out of it so it can be discussed correctly.

Alright say that I was fine with your reductionist take of social influence. What is the point that needs to be discussed now and how is it a better discussion than, say, finding the source and justification of one social influence?

OccultHawk 01-28-2018 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1921330)
Alright say that I was fine with your reductionist take of social influence. What is the point that needs to be discussed now and how is it a better discussion than, say, finding the source and justification of one social influence?

The correct discussion is exactly what Peterson was talking about: the hippocampus and amygdala.

Frownland 01-28-2018 10:42 AM

Yes those are things. Not much of a discussion is it.

OccultHawk 01-28-2018 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1921340)
Yes those are things. Not much of a discussion is it.

It depends on if you understood what he was saying or not.

Frownland 01-28-2018 10:48 AM

I guess I don't. Explain the hack's point for me.

You seriously don't consider equating (or as some might say: reducing) our predisposition to accept social influence with social influence itself to be a valuable stance, do you?

grindy 01-28-2018 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1921340)
Yes those are things.

We need a thread about that.


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