Jordan Peterson - Get a damn hoover, ey.

OccultHawk · 01-28-2018, 11:43 AM

It’s not a straw man argument to point out a thesis is flawed to its core.

WWWP · 01-28-2018, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

You could say the Quakers but that was very short-lived and had to plug into surrounding society to survive. Were early hunter-gatherers considered hierarchical? Certainly tribal in some elements.

Right, h/g's were certainly tribal, and don't quote me on this because I'm paraphrasing, but if im remembering correctly the more familiar social heirarchies involving power and class structures evolved once we took up agriculture and became less nomadic.

**Frownland** · 01-28-2018, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

It’s not a straw man argument to point out a thesis is flawed to its core.

It is when you pose unnaturalness as the only alternative to biology.

**Frownland** · 01-28-2018, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon

Right, h/g's were certainly tribal, and don't quote me on this because I'm paraphrasing, but if im remembering correctly the more familiar social heirarchies involving power and class structures evolved once we took up agriculture and became less nomadic.

That was my understanding as well, I was just trying to think of an example of a homoarchy.

WWWP · 01-28-2018, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness

hola amigos, no sé de lo que ustedes están hablando, lo siento.

or tying to not care :/

lol I live for these discussions. i got degrees in religious studies, philosophy, humanities, human development, and social & behavioral sciences. they said liberal arts would never take me anywhere, but here I am spending my Sunday morning making lazy arguments on the internet so

OccultHawk · 01-28-2018, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

It is when you pose unnaturalness as the only alternative to biology.

If we’re talking about human behavior it is all biology.

All.

**Frownland** · 01-28-2018, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

If we’re talking about human behavior it is all biology.

All.

It is a ubiquitous component in all human behaviour, but it's obtuse to think that it's the only thing that can be at play.

So is it good **** btw?

**Frownland** · 01-28-2018, 11:58 AM

inb4 merit

WWWP · 01-28-2018, 12:02 PM

Lol from wiki

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Although, for many of the original founders of the Kibbutz, the arrival of children was a sobering experience: "When we saw our first children in the playpen, hitting one another, or grabbing toys just for themselves, we were overcome with anxiety. What did it mean that even an education in communal life couldn't uproot these egotistical tendencies? The utopia of our initial social conception was slowly, slowly destroyed."

WWWP · 01-28-2018, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

yeah they've actually privatized a lot and they aren't the same thing anymore

but it's unavoidable when you're subject to world capitalism, compete or starve

for sure. it's just hilarious to me as a preschool teacher.

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