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Old 01-28-2018, 11:43 AM   #121 (permalink)
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It’s not a straw man argument to point out a thesis is flawed to its core.
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Old 01-28-2018, 11:44 AM   #122 (permalink)
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You could say the Quakers but that was very short-lived and had to plug into surrounding society to survive. Were early hunter-gatherers considered hierarchical? Certainly tribal in some elements.
Right, h/g's were certainly tribal, and don't quote me on this because I'm paraphrasing, but if im remembering correctly the more familiar social heirarchies involving power and class structures evolved once we took up agriculture and became less nomadic.
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Old 01-28-2018, 11:45 AM   #123 (permalink)
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It’s not a straw man argument to point out a thesis is flawed to its core.
It is when you pose unnaturalness as the only alternative to biology.
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Old 01-28-2018, 11:46 AM   #124 (permalink)
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Right, h/g's were certainly tribal, and don't quote me on this because I'm paraphrasing, but if im remembering correctly the more familiar social heirarchies involving power and class structures evolved once we took up agriculture and became less nomadic.
That was my understanding as well, I was just trying to think of an example of a homoarchy.
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Old 01-28-2018, 11:48 AM   #125 (permalink)
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hola amigos, no sé de lo que ustedes están hablando, lo siento.

or tying to not care :/
lol I live for these discussions. i got degrees in religious studies, philosophy, humanities, human development, and social & behavioral sciences. they said liberal arts would never take me anywhere, but here I am spending my Sunday morning making lazy arguments on the internet so
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It is when you pose unnaturalness as the only alternative to biology.
If we’re talking about human behavior it is all biology.

All.
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Old 01-28-2018, 11:56 AM   #127 (permalink)
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If we’re talking about human behavior it is all biology.

All.
It is a ubiquitous component in all human behaviour, but it's obtuse to think that it's the only thing that can be at play.

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Old 01-28-2018, 12:02 PM   #129 (permalink)
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Although, for many of the original founders of the Kibbutz, the arrival of children was a sobering experience: "When we saw our first children in the playpen, hitting one another, or grabbing toys just for themselves, we were overcome with anxiety. What did it mean that even an education in communal life couldn't uproot these egotistical tendencies? The utopia of our initial social conception was slowly, slowly destroyed."
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yeah they've actually privatized a lot and they aren't the same thing anymore

but it's unavoidable when you're subject to world capitalism, compete or starve
for sure. it's just hilarious to me as a preschool teacher.
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