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Trollheart 08-21-2017 02:17 PM

Hypothetical: You're the sole beneficiary of a will
 
Your eccentric Uncle Eggnog Rabbit-Proof-Fence Carrington-Smythe Junior III (born Herbert Morris, but like I say, he was eccentric) has died, naming you as the sole beneficiary of his will.

You get: Fifty million in cash and a huge mansion with its own extensive grounds.

Conditional upon you receiving this windfall is that you are to a) live in the mansion and nowhere else (you can't sell it, rent it out or invite anyone else to live there with you) and you are to have, from the point you sign the contract, no face to face contact with another human being as long as you live.

You can talk to people via telephone, on the internet (though NOT Skype, at least not with webcam: you are to have no face-to-face contact with another person), and you can write to people if you wish. You will have an extensive staff at the mansion, who will ensure all bills are paid, that the house is maintained, and they will also prepare and serve your meals, though they will never see you and you will never see them.

For dire emergencies, such as hospital visits, dealing with the police etc you will be provided with one member of staff who will act as your go-between and will deal with the relevant authorities. YOU are to have NO contact with anyone, even in the direst of emergencies. This "mouthpiece" will not facilitate you at funerals, weddings, christenings etc: you must avoid all of these.

Should you break the terms of the contract, all your assets will be frozen and seized by your late uncle's lawyers, and you will be required to pay back any of the money you have spent. So you can't try it for a year or two, decide it's too much and change your mind. Once you're in, you're in, and if you turn it down you can never go back and try again.

Think carefully before making your decision. Is having all that money and a cool house worth breaking off all contact with your fellow human beings? What would you do?

Cuthbert 08-21-2017 02:23 PM

Obvious answer is yes take that £50m and live in the mansion. Use your time to make enough money with the 50m to move out.

Then they can have their mansion and £50m back.

This is the correct answer because there was nothing there saying I can't use the £50m cash to make more money.

Frownland 08-21-2017 02:23 PM

I would just make my friends wear masks.

The Batlord 08-21-2017 02:51 PM

I get paid to avoid human contact? I do that free. Total yes.

Trollheart 08-21-2017 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1866349)
Obvious answer is yes take that £50m and live in the mansion. Use your time to make enough money with the 50m to move out.

Then they can have their mansion and £50m back.

This is the correct answer because there was nothing there saying I can't use the £50m cash to make more money.

Good answer. Like it.
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1866350)
I would just make my friends wear masks.

No; face to face isn't to be taken literally. You just cannot be at any time in the presence of any other human, other than for the explicit emergencies mentioned in the OP. Nobody can visit you, nobody can live there with you apart from your staff, whom you'll never see. You cannot leave the house, though you can walk in the grounds, but on those occasions the staff must be pre-advised to prevent you accidentally encountering say a gardener. The walls are high and there is no chance of meeting anyone from the outside. You will be alone for the rest of your life.

Frownland 08-21-2017 03:22 PM

You can't change the rules if you're dead, uncle john. Mask to mask bitch.

Trollheart 08-21-2017 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1866359)
You can't change the rules if you're dead, uncle john. Mask to mask bitch.

Not changing the rules. You just misinterpreted the phrase. And it's Uncle Eggnog. Anyway, it's in the hands of his lawyers, and they will ensure that his wishes are carried out.

Frownland 08-21-2017 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1866362)
Not changing the rules. You just misinterpreted the phrase. And it's Uncle Eggnog. Anyway, it's in the hands of his lawyers, and they will ensure that his wishes are carried out.

And my answer to that question is that I would win the case on my uncle's poor wording and walk away with 50 mil and a masked posse.

grindy 08-21-2017 04:17 PM

Too easy.
Loneliness, isolation and lots of money = one hell of a depression

OccultHawk 08-21-2017 04:26 PM

I want 500 M and another 20 M per year

Too easy to burn through 50

Trollheart 08-21-2017 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1866354)
I get paid to avoid human contact? I do that free. Total yes.

I knew this would be you. You wouldn't even have to say thank you for the pizza: it would be delivered to you and the remains (if any) taken away without any human contact being needed. Your utopia, yes?
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1866363)
And my answer to that question is that I would win the case on my uncle's poor wording and walk away with 50 mil and a masked posse.

No, you wouldn't. These are some of the highest-priced lawyers money can buy. Any man who can leave fifty mill and a mansion can afford the cream of Harvard Law School, or whatever.
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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1866381)
Too easy.
Loneliness, isolation and lots of money = one hell of a depression

Very true.
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1866383)
I want 500 M and another 20 M per year

Too easy to burn through 50

Sorry; you'll have to remain on the poverty line with a mere fifty mill. Maybe you can start an appeal?

Anyone who wishes to can consider this their chance to pose questions about the will. Essentially, you're in the solicitor's office and can ask what you want before signing. Or you can just grab the deal as is.

Frownland 08-21-2017 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1866388)
No, you wouldn't. These are some of the highest-priced lawyers money can buy. Any man who can leave fifty mill and a mansion can afford the cream of Harvard Law School, or whatever.

This kind of arrogance will be what wins me the case. Contracts are literal as ****, sloppy writing is to be interpreted as such.

Oriphiel 08-21-2017 04:59 PM

Take the 50 mil, give each of your uncle's lawyers a bribe to get them on your side, and then walk away with the rest.

The Batlord 08-21-2017 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1866388)
Anyone who wishes to can consider this their chance to pose questions about the will. Essentially, you're in the solicitor's office and can ask what you want before signing. Or you can just grab the deal as is.

Do the terms of the will include police payoffs so they won't show up at your house and arrest you face-to-face if you hire a hitman online and have him record a murder for your own sick amusement?

OccultHawk 08-21-2017 06:53 PM

Is payment for the staff and the mansion upkeep already paid or is it taken out of our 50 M?

Trollheart 08-21-2017 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1866389)
This kind of arrogance will be what wins me the case. Contracts are literal as ****, sloppy writing is to be interpreted as such.

Arrogance is what gets lawyers up in the morning. They'll eat you alive.
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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1866391)
Take the 50 mil, give each of your uncle's lawyers a bribe to get them on your side, and then walk away with the rest.

These people are unbribe-able. Steps have been taken to ensure it is so. Nobody's quite sure which of their relatives have been kidnapped, but let's just say there's a cabin in the woods somewhere, with a man who spends his evenings promising his AK47 "Soon, my pet. Soon ...."
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1866392)
Do the terms of the will include police payoffs so they won't show up at your house and arrest you face-to-face if you hire a hitman online and have him record a murder for your own sick amusement?

You're free to do as you like with the money. Whether they will decide to double-cross you and report you after/before the murder, I can't say. That's a chance you'll have to take.
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1866407)
Is payment for the staff and the mansion upkeep already paid or is it taken out of our 50 M?

It's already paid. Uncle Eggnog made his money in Trump futures and this fifty mill is a drop in the ocean compared to the rest of his estate.

Frownland 08-21-2017 07:30 PM

This isn't very realistic.

The Batlord 08-21-2017 07:32 PM

Can I have a sexbot?

Trollheart 08-21-2017 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1866414)
This isn't very realistic.

It's hypothetical. What's unrealistic about it? Ain't you never watched Brewster's Millions? ;)
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1866417)
Can I have a sexbot?

You have fifty mil. You can buy whatever you want. Maybe one that looks exactly like Harley Quinn, if you want.

Frownland 08-21-2017 07:59 PM

Can we be test subjects for the singularity?

Trollheart 08-21-2017 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1866426)
Can we be test subjects for the singularity?

Sure. Why not?

Frownland 08-21-2017 08:15 PM

Can I have robots with real human skin, a kind of erotic Silence of the Lambs thing? That would include a literal face.

Trollheart 08-21-2017 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1866430)
Can I have robots with real human skin, a kind of erotic Silence of the Lambs thing? That would include a literal face.

I repeat what I told Batty. You got fifty mill, I'm sure someone out there can make it happen.

Frownland 08-21-2017 08:21 PM

So I could get away with the money and hide my identity really easily.

The Batlord 08-21-2017 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1866425)
It's hypothetical. What's unrealistic about it? Ain't you never watched Brewster's Millions? ;)

You have fifty mil. You can buy whatever you want. Maybe one that looks exactly like Harley Quinn, if you want.

I'm not that far gone. Just give me one that looks like post-mortem Marilyn Monroe. And I also want a robotic Chinese parade dragon to wander throughout my mansion at all times of the day and night. Silently. And it'll actually try to eat you. Not even I will be safe from it.

GuD 08-21-2017 08:44 PM

that sounds so beautiful I want to cry

gimme
gimmemansion
n
moneys

Trollheart 08-23-2017 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1866440)
just 1 occurrence of consensual sex with the opposite gender is worth a good 2mil

this is turrible value

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1866443)
wait ok apparently it's 50k, I remember reading a paper on it

Money, Sex, and Happiness: An Empirical Study

What has that to do with anything? :confused:

djchameleon 08-23-2017 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1866349)
Obvious answer is yes take that £50m and live in the mansion. Use your time to make enough money with the 50m to move out.

Then they can have their mansion and £50m back.

This is the correct answer because there was nothing there saying I can't use the £50m cash to make more money.

Yeah. This is what I was thinking. Take the money and flip it various ways through different investments. Take the profits and move out afterwards with just the profits alone.

If that wasn't allowed. I straight up wouldn't do it.

Chiomara 08-23-2017 09:26 AM

Sounds wonderful. I could fill the mansion with exotic pets (and horses--assuming one can go outside) and maintain multiple intense letter correspondences, just like Lord Byron. (If I had enough animals, I could probably remain relatively sane and happy) And if I needed meds to help with the inevitable craziness, I'd just order them from an online pharmacy. If those eventually stop working, I'd give in and acquire two or three robots. We could start a band. (Oooh, one of the robots could be like one of those old Victorian-era automatons that played the harpsichord) Ideally ones that could speak and run errands for me. I realize I could have my employees run errands for me, but I'd much rather a robot (or trained raven) do it. (I'm imagining a hyper-realistic humanlike robot-- wearing a shawl and sunglasses-- wheeling into a 7-11 in an electric wheelchair and knocking over various displays and small children while attempting to grab the specific candy bars I requested. And then just zooming away without paying.)

I imagine the biggest struggle (aside from the social isolation) would be actually using all of that time and money somewhat productively as opposed to just playing video games/watching netflix and ordering weird stuff on ebay all day.

Trollheart 08-23-2017 10:32 AM

You can indeed go outside (the house has massive private grounds) but alone. Your horses will be cared for and prepared for you by your ostlers, grooms etc but they will not be present when you go to the stable to mount up. You can have all the animals you like: you can also, if you so wish, contribute large sums to animal charities, or any other charity you wish. You can shop online and your delivered goods will be brought to a specific room in the mansion set aside for that purpose.

Or, knowing you, a suite of rooms! :laughing:

I love the idea of the less-than-perfect smash-and-grabatons! :thumb: You can just imagine the conversation: "Hey! That robot didn't pay!"
"Oh yeah, that's one of the robots belonging to that odd woman who lives up at the big house on the hill. Don't worry: she always wires the payment later, including any damages. Bottle of Jack, was it? Hmm: looks like the robot took the last one..."

Point of interest: what's that Russian-looking sig of yours mean?

Frownland 08-23-2017 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1866798)
the point being that my answer would be "no" because the best things in life are actually free provided you afford rent and something to eat

Drugs aren't free. And don't gimme that oh but it grows in the wild BS because we both know the good **** was cultivated in someone's basement.

Frownland 08-23-2017 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1866801)
doesn't peyote grow naturally mannn
I could find that **** right now if I wanted to go look

And what are you going to do once you find it? Just chomp it?

My point still stands.

Frownland 08-23-2017 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1866803)
honestly I have no idea drugland

You'd have to extract it. It's pretty simple tbh. BUT NOT FREE. SAD!

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but say MDMA, is pointless by yourself, and it's the best QED
It has its place. I think shrooms are my favourite.

Frownland 08-23-2017 11:45 AM

I propose a third option: You can keep the money and interact with people, but you are required to live in Florida and can never leave.

The Batlord 08-23-2017 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1866798)
the point being that my answer would be "no" because the best things in life are actually free provided you can afford rent and something to eat

and no face to face contact would drive even the most anti-social people literally insane

That sounds like half the fun tbh.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 08-23-2017 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1866807)

It has its place. I think shrooms are my favourite.

i knew there was a reason we get along.

Trollheart 08-23-2017 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1866798)
the point being that my answer would be "no" because the best things in life are actually free provided you can afford rent and something to eat

and no face to face contact would drive even the most anti-social people literally insane

Oh, ok. I just didn't get the relevance originally.
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1866800)
Drugs aren't free. And don't gimme that oh but it grows in the wild BS because we both know the good **** was cultivated in someone's basement.

Or in the jungles of Colombia...
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1866810)
I propose a third option: You can keep the money and interact with people, but you are required to live in Florida and can never leave.

Even Uncle Eggnog would not be that cruel!

Chiomara 08-23-2017 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1866797)
You can indeed go outside (the house has massive private grounds) but alone. Your horses will be cared for and prepared for you by your ostlers, grooms etc but they will not be present when you go to the stable to mount up. You can have all the animals you like: you can also, if you so wish, contribute large sums to animal charities, or any other charity you wish. You can shop online and your delivered goods will be brought to a specific room in the mansion set aside for that purpose.

Or, knowing you, a suite of rooms! :laughing:

I love the idea of the less-than-perfect smash-and-grabatons! :thumb: You can just imagine the conversation: "Hey! That robot didn't pay!"
"Oh yeah, that's one of the robots belonging to that odd woman who lives up at the big house on the hill. Don't worry: she always wires the payment later, including any damages. Bottle of Jack, was it? Hmm: looks like the robot took the last one..."

Point of interest: what's that Russian-looking sig of yours mean?

Oh, it's Greek actually-- it's an epithet of Hecate meaning "goddess of the lower world wearing golden sandals and drinking blood".

And yes, I'll need a suite of rooms for my gramophone collection and miscellaneous hoarded ephemera, definitely.

Oh and I'd have lots of pet servals because look at them:

http://media.mlive.com/news/baycity_...e176_large.jpg

The Batlord 08-23-2017 05:57 PM

Is it legal to send spiders through the mail?

Chiomara 08-23-2017 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1866994)
Is it legal to send spiders through the mail?

I've wondered this many times. Who wouldn't love surprise spiders in their mailbox? I'm sure it is legal; after all, on Amazon you can get boxes of earthworms and cockroaches etc delivered to wherever.


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