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Old 09-19-2017, 12:47 PM   #511 (permalink)
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There does need to be a clarification on what you mean by liberals I guess. But the left certainly argue from a place of personal experience and abstract niceties. The right isn't perfect, but I'd say there's a lot more of an attempt to keep things within a factual realm as opposed to feelings on their side.
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Old 09-19-2017, 12:59 PM   #512 (permalink)
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There does need to be a clarification on what you mean by liberals I guess. But the left certainly argue from a place of personal experience and abstract niceties. The right isn't perfect, but I'd say there's a lot more of an attempt to keep things within a factual realm as opposed to feelings on their side.
The bolded is super duper removed from personal experience ya know.

And idk if I'd ever accuse either side of trying to keep things in the factual realm. If you are firmly on one side or another and firmly identify as such, you are no friend of fact.
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Old 09-19-2017, 01:00 PM   #513 (permalink)
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I mean I like "Taxman" but it's definitely partially a not entirely successful attempt at a "real" rock song from a pop band.

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There does need to be a clarification on what you mean by liberals I guess. But the left certainly argue from a place of personal experience and abstract niceties. The right isn't perfect, but I'd say there's a lot more of an attempt to keep things within a factual realm as opposed to feelings on their side.
Nah. Just nah. Most people in general are full of **** at least 50% of the time. If one side is better about it then both sides are still **** in general.
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Old 09-19-2017, 01:00 PM   #514 (permalink)
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There does need to be a clarification on what you mean by liberals I guess. But the left certainly argue from a place of personal experience and abstract niceties. The right isn't perfect, but I'd say there's a lot more of an attempt to keep things within a factual realm as opposed to feelings on their side.
Creationists? Climate change deniers?
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Old 09-19-2017, 01:08 PM   #515 (permalink)
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I wouldn't put those two in the same breath. Most conservatives aren't legit Creationists afaik, even if they're still religious. But climate change denying is basically required, at least in America.
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Old 09-19-2017, 01:56 PM   #516 (permalink)
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And idk if I'd ever accuse either side of trying to keep things in the factual realm. If you are firmly on one side or another and firmly identify as such, you are no friend of fact.
In a country like Finland where they're trying out an automatic living wage regardless of work (and this is under their moderate right party)

I feel like some real debate could be had and both sides could have merit

But in the US where because our system isn't democratic the isolated rural minority pushed our politics off the charts right,

our conservative side is just the laughing stock of the world and entirely outside reason, there's not a both sides type situation in the US
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Old 09-19-2017, 02:13 PM   #517 (permalink)
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When did you start posting more than 5 word responses? I like the new elph im seeing.
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Old 09-19-2017, 02:20 PM   #518 (permalink)
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When did you start posting more than 5 word responses? I like the new elph im seeing.
He's also discovered the quote feature.

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Old 09-19-2017, 02:21 PM   #519 (permalink)
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In a country like Finland where they're trying out an automatic living wage regardless of work (and this is under their moderate right party)

I feel like some real debate could be had and both sides could have merit

But in the US where because our system isn't democratic the isolated rural minority pushed our politics off the charts right,

our conservative side is just the laughing stock of the world and entirely outside reason, there's not a both sides type situation in the US
That would be very reasonable if our left wasn't also a laughing stock of the world.

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I guess he isn't posting on a cellphone. Props.
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