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Old 09-25-2017, 08:42 AM   #41 (permalink)
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people who interpret religious texts literally are morons, no doubt. but when you read the bible for the actual morals and lessons it attempts to teach through the story telling it's a compelling document.

it's like when you hear an atheist trying to argue with a christian and rather than address the actual religion they just misinterpret the bible to the point that they end up looking like the dumb one.
The book still says a guy walked on water. If nobody writing it ever actually believed that or thought that anyone should then the ****ing thing should have a disclaimer or something. How many millions or even billions of people have died cause the book wanted to speak out of both sides of its mouth and be unclear? Any book meant to dictate how you should live that is that easy to "misinterpret" ("misinterpretation" being a stupid concept for religion anyway, because the book doesn't make enough sense to interpret "correctly") is ****ing garbage. Maybe the Christians should show some common sense and start editing the damn thing themselves instead of being pussies who cut out large swathes of it in their own heads while still considering it somehow divine or whatever.

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Old 09-25-2017, 09:58 AM   #42 (permalink)
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easy. all i'm saying is that the bible is a lot easier to make sense of when read as a collection of fictious stories with underlying messages rather than as a history book.

whether that's the way most christians see it i honestly couldn't care.
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Old 09-25-2017, 10:08 AM   #43 (permalink)
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easy. all i'm saying is that the bible is a lot easier to make sense of when read as a collection of fictious stories with underlying messages rather than as a history book.
And yet plenty of people don't. That's on the Bible as much as them. You can't just be an apologist for a book cause these guys over here aren't so bad. You also can't say that the fundamentalists are necessarily wrong for interpreting the book in a way that it can actually be interpreted. That's just favoritism.

TBH I see the a lot of the "good Christians" as lazy atheists who don't want to let go of heaven and the idea that somebody up there is looking out for them.

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And yet you side with them? If you don't care then don't defend their beliefs. I don't give a **** for the most part but I still think their book and their religion are idiotic garbage. I just don't throw my opinion in their faces.
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i definitely can say fundamentalists are wrong for lacking the ability to critically think and read between the lines.

i defend their belief as i would anybody elses within reason. i know in 2017 it's cool to only focus on the negative aspects of religions and not the positive affect it has on many peoples lives but the reality of it is there are plenty of good aspects of it. i'm not saying they outweigh the bad, historically they definitely don't.

the issue is like i mentioned, rather than take these things into account most people do exactly what you're doing right now and attack the lowest common denominator like fundamentalists rather than acknowledge there are millions of people who see christianity as simply a guideline to live their life by. be kind, respect thy neighbour, and give thanks.

yeah, some of us are able to do that on our own. but for those who can't, im glad there is something around to restore purpose to their life.
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Old 09-25-2017, 12:08 PM   #45 (permalink)
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i definitely can say fundamentalists are wrong for lacking the ability to critically think and read between the lines.

i defend their belief as i would anybody elses within reason. i know in 2017 it's cool to only focus on the negative aspects of religions and not the positive affect it has on many peoples lives but the reality of it is there are plenty of good aspects of it. i'm not saying they outweigh the bad, historically they definitely don't.

the issue is like i mentioned, rather than take these things into account most people do exactly what you're doing right now and attack the lowest common denominator like fundamentalists rather than acknowledge there are millions of people who see christianity as simply a guideline to live their life by. be kind, respect thy neighbour, and give thanks.

yeah, some of us are able to do that on our own. but for those who can't, im glad there is something around to restore purpose to their life.
I also attacked moderates for being wishy washy. I'll also attack them for indoctrinating children, producing a cultural climate that allows religious extremism to be more viable than if there were no religion, and shutting down logical discussions about religion on a public scale cause we don't want to be mean to them.

On the other hand I'm fine with many of the social aspects of religion, such as a sense of community, or being encouraged to contribute to charities and do community service, both of which atheism generally doesn't do unless you get goofy, pseudo-religions like secular humanism that are half-baked attempts to have their cake and eat it to (and they don't even really get to eat it tbh).

But that doesn't stop the whole thing from being idiotic.
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The book still says a guy walked on water. If nobody writing it ever actually believed that or thought that anyone should then the ****ing thing should have a disclaimer or something. How many millions or even billions of people have died cause the book wanted to speak out of both sides of its mouth and be unclear? Any book meant to dictate how you should live that is that easy to "misinterpret" ("misinterpretation" being a stupid concept for religion anyway, because the book doesn't make enough sense to interpret "correctly") is ****ing garbage. Maybe the Christians should show some common sense and start editing the damn thing themselves instead of being pussies who cut out large swathes of it in their own heads while still considering it somehow divine or whatever.

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Because, from what I understand, Satanists typically don't actually believe in the supernatural.
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Because, from what I understand, Satanists typically don't actually believe in the supernatural.
So that makes them atheists then.
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So that makes them atheists then.
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