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Old 09-30-2017, 11:31 AM   #91 (permalink)
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Old 09-30-2017, 11:57 AM   #92 (permalink)
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Old 09-30-2017, 01:21 PM   #93 (permalink)
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Old 09-30-2017, 03:53 PM   #95 (permalink)
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Please tell us about how you were abducted by aliens. I will be laughing at you, but it will be good-natured mockery.
Your ad hominem bullshit aside, the idea of angels, demons and religious deities being extraterrestrial aliens makes perfect sense. They came to this planet and were worshiped as "gods" only because the beings on this planet didn't know any better.

It closes the argument of them being some sort of supernatural phenoms and provides a more unified theory of the universe.
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Old 09-30-2017, 05:06 PM   #96 (permalink)
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Your ad hominem bullshit aside,
You can side-step poop, but even if you don't step in it still smells, and it still looks pretty gross looking too. (I'm just extending you poop metaphor for Batty.)

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... the idea of angels, demons and religious deities being extraterrestrial aliens makes perfect sense. They came to this planet and were worshiped as "gods" only because the beings on this planet didn't know any better.

It closes the argument of them being some sort of supernatural phenoms and provides a more unified theory of the universe.
Angels and demons in the Judeo-Christian tradition are strictly paranatural beings. They are purely spiritual beings. They are not made of matter from this universe. They are not higher dimensions beings that evolved in another dimension that can cross over into this dimension or universe, whatever the case may be.

There may be very rare occasions where they are be able to manifest themselves in an apparition, but that does not mean that is their actual form. What you see is some kind of a vision, not their actual essence.
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Angels and demons in the Judeo-Christian tradition are strictly paranatural beings. They are purely spiritual beings. They are not made of matter from this universe. They are not higher dimensions beings that evolved in another dimension that can cross over into this dimension or universe, whatever the case may be.

There may be very rare occasions where they are be able to manifest themselves in an apparition, but that does not mean that is their actual form. What you see is some kind of a vision, not their actual essence.
I don't subscribe to the Judeo-Christian tradition. I used to be a Bible thumper, but that was when I was an ignorant teenager. My current beliefs align most accurately with Panendeism. I also like Taosim very much.

I don't like the idea of "supernatural" things. I believe that many such things exist, but that we aren't yet advanced enough to understand them in a proper scientific manner.

[And yes, I apologize for all of the Bible bullshit that I espoused on here back in the day. If I could take it back, I would. I was raised as a strict Pentecostal Christian from birth. It was a very narrow-minded upbringing.]
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Calling such beings "angels" or "demons" sounds more like a cop-out than calling them "extraterrestrials" or "aliens." At least the latter is putting some thought into their origin, not just chalking them up to being magical sky deities.
You completely, ironically, and hilariously missed my point and lived out being one of the people I described.

Yes, it's a more plausible and seemingly more satisfying answer in this modern age. But it's still not based in any bit of logic and is just as lazy as making up supernatural creatures. It's not any less of a cop-out. It's just as much of a cop-out. You just like it more because it pretends to be rooted in science. It's not.
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You completely, ironically, and hilariously missed my point and lived out being one of the people I described.

Yes, it's a more plausible and seemingly more satisfying answer in this modern age. But it's still not based in any bit of logic and is just as lazy as making up supernatural creatures. It's not any less of a cop-out. It's just as much of a cop-out. You just like it more because it pretends to be rooted in science. It's not.
I believe that there have been numerous highly advanced civilizations that have existed on this planet in the past [Atlantis, Mu, Agartha, Shambhala, Dwarka, etc.] Perhaps their origins were seeded from extraterrestrial places, perhaps not [we all came from somewhere different if we go back far enough and extrapolate, but no need to argue semantics]. But they existed, regardless of their origins. They were seen as gods by less evolved species. Elements of history can be studied and classified. You can laugh, but to say that's "not rooted in science," like that's some sort of badge of honor on your part, is just dismissive and wrong. Historical lineage, if it can be proven and recorded, is a far better way of classifying things than just summating them as a magical sky people. That's what I was getting at. It's the INTENTION that counts. Calling them ET's, advanced beings, etc. at least ATTEMPTS to integrate them into the framework of our knowledge base, while saying that they are "supernatural" [i.e. cannot be defined by science] seems more like a cop-out because it doesn't attempt to progress anything.
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