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Old 10-28-2017, 12:27 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Isnít California up there with the most subsidised and non self sufficient states in the US? If so, good luck with that.

Iíd be all for it anyway.
I think California would be in the G8.
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Old 10-28-2017, 12:29 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Which side would Trump and Putin take? Or would they just stir **** up at random for the **** of it?
Good question. My guess is Trump wouldn't give two cents since he's fixated on North Korea. Putin appears to want to bring back the old Soviet Union so I would guess he'd back the nationalist Spain like the rest of Europe at the moment. I'm just seeing a bad parallel from a historical standpoint when it was Franco's Nationalists against the Left-wing Republicans (talk about an oxymoron). Hitler and Mussolini sided with Franco while other governments officially stayed neutral while private citizens would fight with the Republicans mostly. It didn't lead to World War II directly but it was a period of global unrest not unlike today. It's pretty scary stuff to think about.
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Elph and I have discussed it a little from our varying anarchist perspectives.
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Old 10-28-2017, 02:54 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Yeah, but not something that should be encouraged while humanity is supposedly moving beyond imperialism.
Catalonia was never a colony though

it's been part of Spain since the 15th century through a marriage contract
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Catalonia was never a colony though

it's been part of Spain since the 15th century through a marriage contract
If a group wants independence then preventing that still equates to imperialism afaic.
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And no, tyranny is not synonymous with fascism. Fascism is a specific political system with policies that can be kind of nebulous at times due to its half-baked nature, but it's still not just another word for a dictatorship.
OK, good to know. Still, as Mr. Mackey would say, it's bad, mkay?
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fascism is an extreme conservative authoritarian ultra-nationalist ideology which is why you hear it a lot from the left in response to Trump
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fascism is an extreme conservative authoritarian ultra-nationalist ideology which is why you hear it a lot from the left in response to Trump
Yes. It is the ultimate reaction against revolutionary (in the leftist sense) change, that deifies the prelapsarian ideal of the respective country and demonizes anything that would threaten that pseudo-religious ideal. Much like American conservatives harp on about the Founding Fathers, the Constitution, and the City upon a Hill that America supposedly was at some point or another before the socialists ruined everything. Except even more so, and demands complete subservience to that ideal because it is so fragile, though the fascists would deny that it is so.
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that's eerily spot on you fascist worshiper

I feel like a class on definitions of political terms is much needed on the music bants
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that's eerily spot on you fascist worshiper

I feel like a class on definitions of political terms is much needed on the music bants
1. I used to be a reactionary libertarian, and many modern libertarians are the exact people who would have bought into fascism in the 30s and 40s. So I have some insight into the mentality.

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2. I like to read about Nazis and fascism cause god damn are they interesting freaks.
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