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Frownland 12-06-2017 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1901558)

Before the 2014 crash, Linda and I were averaging about $160K a year. We paid the expected taxes, wrote off whatever was legal, and got by.

Unlike billionaires, we couldn't afford high priced tax advisers to help us exploit the system. Didn't own massive amounts of property that we could exploit via the insane depreciation laws. Couldn't ship any of our wealth (we didn't even have wealth) offshore, and had no means to exploit "super rich people" tax loopholes.
Fun fact: nobody gives a ****.

Also, working with Chinese megacorporations sounds a tiny bit like outsourcing jobs to save money. Explain yourself!

DwnWthVwls 12-06-2017 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1901561)
Fun fact: nobody gives a ****.

Also, working with Chinese megacorporations sounds a tiny bit like outsourcing jobs to save money. Explain yourself!
I got Chula off your back.. I better get a 6pack and a dope mixtape for Christmas.

Frownland 12-06-2017 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1901562)
I got Chula off your back.. I better get a 6pack and a dope mixtape for Christmas.
It makes no difference what men think of Chula's hatred for me, said the judge. Chula's hatred endures. You might as well ask him what he thinks of stone. Chula's hatred was always here. Before I was, Chula's hatred for me waited for me. The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner. That is the way it was and will be. That way and not some other way.

Here's a dope mix anyway, I bolded the ones I think you wouldn't be into:

You should check out Emay's album from this year too.

Chula Vista 12-06-2017 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1901561)
Also, working with Chinese megacorporations sounds a tiny bit like outsourcing jobs to save money. Explain yourself!
Step away from your PC for a few minutes. Walk through your house and check out where everything was made. Light fixtures, TVs, speakers, microwave, toaster oven, can opener, laptop, PC, remote controls, cell phones, furniture, etc., etc., etc.

Willing to bet your ****ing bathroom towels and coffee cups were also not built here in the US.

What's your ****ing point?

You want "Made in USA?" - get ready to pay 3 to 4 times more. The amount of whining would be insane.

You want to deport all of the So-Cal immigrants? - get ready to pay $15 for six tomatoes.

Reality sucks, and then you die.

DwnWthVwls 12-06-2017 03:28 PM
I buy local and shop etsy. I don't get your point.

OccultHawk 12-06-2017 03:31 PM
One reason why I don’t give a **** about mom and pop shops is they’re just as greedy. They maximize their profits as much as possible same as the megakunts but they’re always claiming to be losing money or barely getting by. They go out of business and it’s boohoo for the community but it’s like what the **** did you ever do for me? Keep the money in the community... if it’s in the neighbor’s bank account it doesn’t do me many good. Might as well be in Uganda. The **** I care if my neighbor is rich? He ain’t giving me none.

Frownland 12-06-2017 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1901568)
Step away from your PC for a few minutes. Walk through your house and check out where everything was made. Light fixtures, TVs, speakers, microwave, toaster oven, can opener, laptop, PC, remote controls, cell phones, furniture, etc., etc., etc.

Willing to bet your ****ing bathroom towels and coffee cups were also not built here in the US.

What's your ****ing point?

You want "Made in USA?" - get ready to pay 3 to 4 times more. The amount of whining would be insane.
If all of the products in my home jumped off of a bridge, would you do it too? Just because outsourcing is popular doesn't mean it's sustainable or beneficial to anyone but big business CEOs like yourself.

Anyway I already try to keep my purchases local if I can for environmental reasons more than anything.

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You want to deport all of the So-Cal immigrants? - get ready to pay $15 for six tomatoes.
Uh when did I say that? Anyway I'd be okay with a higher price because (1) not a fan of tomatoes and (2) exploitation making my life simpler doesn't justify it in any way.

EXPLOIT

verb (used with object)
1.
to utilize, especially for profit; turn to practical account:
to exploit a business opportunity.
2.
to use selfishly for one's own ends:
employers who exploit their workers.
3.
to advance or further through exploitation; promote:
He exploited his new movie through a series of guest appearances

Can't believe I ever thought you were cool. Well guess what mister, I don't think you're a cool guy anymore!!!!

OccultHawk 12-06-2017 03:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1901568)
Step away from your PC for a few minutes. Walk through your house and check out where everything was made. Light fixtures, TVs, speakers, microwave, toaster oven, can opener, laptop, PC, remote controls, cell phones, furniture, etc., etc., etc.

Willing to bet your ****ing bathroom towels and coffee cups were also not built here in the US.

What's your ****ing point?

You want "Made in USA?" - get ready to pay 3 to 4 times more. The amount of whining would be insane.

You want to deport all of the So-Cal immigrants? - get ready to pay $15 for six tomatoes.

Reality sucks, and then you die.
Are you arguing it’s ok to be a ****?

The Batlord 12-06-2017 03:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1901558)
Are you seriously trying to equate a family making $150K a year (in any way) with billionaires?

Before the 2014 crash, Linda and I were averaging about $160K a year. We paid the expected taxes, wrote off whatever was legal, and got by.

Unlike billionaires, we couldn't afford high priced tax advisers to help us exploit the system. Didn't own massive amounts of property that we could exploit via the insane depreciation laws. Couldn't ship any of our wealth (we didn't even have wealth) offshore, and had no means to exploit "super rich people" tax loopholes.

EXPLOIT

verb (used with object)
1.
to utilize, especially for profit; turn to practical account:
to exploit a business opportunity.
2.
to use selfishly for one's own ends:
employers who exploit their workers.
3.
to advance or further through exploitation; promote:
He exploited his new movie through a series of guest appearances.

Can't believe I once thought you were cool.
Glad you can sleep with "your" point of view.

Stop with the ****ing insults too. I can think just fine. Don't be a dick.
Honestly surprised Chula didn't mention full benefits. He's changing it up.

Chula Vista 12-06-2017 03:53 PM
re·al·i·ty

rēˈalədē/Submit

noun

1.
the world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them.


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