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OccultHawk 12-05-2017 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tolstoy (Post 1901399)
You guys should read/listen to the Gulag Archipelago. Communism fell out of fashion in the west for a good reason.

No offense but I doubt you know Solzhenitsyn‘s work better than I do.

OccultHawk 12-05-2017 05:27 PM

Or Tolstoy quite frankly

rubber soul 12-05-2017 11:32 PM

Is Tolstoy a phantom? I thought they assassinated him in Mexico or something. (Oh, wait, that was Trotsky :D)

Chula Vista 12-06-2017 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1901340)
Curious how the math works out when you calculate percentages across any class or individual. Is a household that brings in 100k a year hoarding 10% without any societal contribution less "bad" than a billionaire hoarding the same 10% with equal contribution?

Mind blown. Due you have a ****ing clue how this **** works?

I'm too tired right now but will be back tomorrow.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 12-06-2017 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1901452)
Mind blown. Due you have a ****ing clue how this **** works?

I'm too tired right now but will be back tomorrow.

lol

Lucem Ferre 12-06-2017 12:41 AM

Am I they only one here that things a pure form of any governmental philosophy is flawed and will inevitably fail, but Frankensteining a government that takes pieces from each would work much better?

rubber soul 12-06-2017 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1901456)
Am I they only one here that things a pure form of any governmental philosophy is flawed and will inevitably fail, but Frankensteining a government that takes pieces from each would work much better?

Nope. A system with a combination of Capitalism and Socialism would probably be the way to go. The problem isn't people trying to make money legitimately, it's the corporations that are pushing out the small businesses.

And to respond to Down's logic, I'm not sure about the math, but you sound a little like Sean Hannity crying why should he be paying more taxes than the poor.

DwnWthVwls 12-06-2017 03:14 AM

Dont mind Chula he just takes everything personal when you have a different view point. Also my question was just meant to better understand elphs view. Anyone who decided to make it into something more probably shouldnt waste their time.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1901452)
Mind blown. Due you have a ****ing clue how this **** works?

I'm too tired right now but will be back tomorrow.

Dont bother. I dont care to engage with you in any kind of discussion that involves thinking and elph answered the question already.

rubber soul 12-06-2017 03:28 AM

Fair enough. I was paying attention to more your comment than the others. Elph obviously has his own views. :laughing:

Chula Vista 12-06-2017 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1901464)
Dont mind Chula.

Are you seriously trying to equate a family making $150K a year (in any way) with billionaires?

Before the 2014 crash, Linda and I were averaging about $160K a year. We paid the expected taxes, wrote off whatever was legal, and got by.

Unlike billionaires, we couldn't afford high priced tax advisers to help us exploit the system. Didn't own massive amounts of property that we could exploit via the insane depreciation laws. Couldn't ship any of our wealth (we didn't even have wealth) offshore, and had no means to exploit "super rich people" tax loopholes.

EXPLOIT

verb (used with object)
1.
to utilize, especially for profit; turn to practical account:
to exploit a business opportunity.
2.
to use selfishly for one's own ends:
employers who exploit their workers.
3.
to advance or further through exploitation; promote:
He exploited his new movie through a series of guest appearances.

Can't believe I once thought you were cool.
Glad you can sleep with "your" point of view.

Stop with the ****ing insults too. I can think just fine. Don't be a dick.


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