Universal Basic Income or Class Warfare

The Batlord · 11-28-2018, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Unless you’re talking about cutting military spending by at least 99% you can **** off.

Well yeah UBI is a pipe dream so long as we're living in a retard society that thinks the amount of money we spend on the military somehow isn't already enough.

OccultHawk · 11-28-2018, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg

Well yeah UBI is a pipe dream so long as we're living in a retard society that thinks the amount of money we spend on the military somehow isn't already enough.

Even in Fantasyland it’s disappointing to hear someone get even a small platform and then point 1 (literally) is we’ll pay for UBI by taking things away from the most disenfranchised. I mean f uck.

The Batlord · 11-28-2018, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Even in Fantasyland it’s disappointing to hear someone get even a small platform and then point 1 (literally) is we’ll pay for UBI by taking things away from the most disenfranchised. I mean f uck.

Isn't the point of UBI that it will replace welfare? I haven't said that $1000 a month is the desirable end. I've said that it's a 1st step to convince the populace that it's not Stalin hiding under their beds. If you start giving people "free" money they'll start liking it and get used to it. Then it will be a much shorter trip to higher amounts.

Like I said, working class conservatives were up in arms about Obamacare, a highly imperfect solution to private healthcare abuse. Then when their chosen politicians tried repealing it those same people started crying foul because now they had healthcare and hadn't reckoned with how it would affect them. Whatever you want to say about Obamacare it was a 1st step to convincing conservatives scared of socialism that the government throwing them any kind of bone wasn't the worst thing in the universe.

$1000 of UBI would be a crazy step towards convincing those same people that higher amounts of UBI could be desirable.

Anteater · 11-28-2018, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Even in Fantasyland it’s disappointing to hear someone get even a small platform and then point 1 (literally) is we’ll pay for UBI by taking things away from the most disenfranchised. I mean f uck.

He's a big advocate for Medicare For All and seemingly a lot of other policies that would reduce costs for the disenfranchised though.

OccultHawk · 11-28-2018, 08:12 PM

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Isn't the point of UBI that it will replace welfare?

Why not in addition to?

OccultHawk · 11-28-2018, 08:27 PM

Actually with elph on the value added tax being dangerously regressive too

It decreases supply on **** poor people buy eating up your income

UBI is the answer but this is the wrong dude

**Frownland** · 11-28-2018, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Actually with elph on the value added tax being dangerously regressive too

It decreases supply on **** poor people buy eating up your income

UBI is the answer but this is the wrong dude

Anteater · 11-28-2018, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Actually with elph on the value added tax being dangerously regressive too

It decreases supply on **** poor people buy eating up your income

UBI is the answer but this is the wrong dude

Your missing out on the countless other things he's suggesting in addition to UBI. I know it isn't feasible that all of this would happen, but as I said before he's thought things through to a fair extent. He's basically Sanders or Ocasio-Cortez except unlike those clowns he knows how to actually structure and manage organizations to get **** done.

https://www.yang2020.com/policies/human-capitalism/

The Batlord · 11-28-2018, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Actually with elph on the value added tax being dangerously regressive too

It decreases supply on **** poor people buy eating up your income

UBI is the answer but this is the wrong dude

I mean quite possibly and I'm not the most educated but still the idea of this being a concept that is introduced to the American public is exciting. I suspect that it won't even get that far and the public at large will remain as ignorant of the concept of UBI as they always have but if they can even be made aware that such a thing exists then does it matter who proposes it when they'll obviously never get elected anyway? I mean if I were to ask 9 out of 10 people on the street if they had the slightest idea of what UBI was what do you think they would say?

Anteater · 11-28-2018, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I suspect you like him because he projects an image you can get behind

No, I just think he has a much better chance at creating real solutions because he's an extremely technical person (with a fantastic track record) in a career sector I'm intimately familiar with.

We don't get many of those in government as a general rule. But you either fail to grasp that reality or you just lack an appreciation for what it takes to do what he's done.

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