Universal Basic Income or Class Warfare

**Frownland** · 12-06-2017, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Before the 2014 crash, Linda and I were averaging about $160K a year. We paid the expected taxes, wrote off whatever was legal, and got by.

Unlike billionaires, we couldn't afford high priced tax advisers to help us exploit the system. Didn't own massive amounts of property that we could exploit via the insane depreciation laws. Couldn't ship any of our wealth (we didn't even have wealth) offshore, and had no means to exploit "super rich people" tax loopholes.

Fun fact: nobody gives a ****.

Also, working with Chinese megacorporations sounds a tiny bit like outsourcing jobs to save money. Explain yourself!

DwnWthVwls · 12-06-2017, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Fun fact: nobody gives a ****.

Also, working with Chinese megacorporations sounds a tiny bit like outsourcing jobs to save money. Explain yourself!

I got Chula off your back.. I better get a 6pack and a dope mixtape for Christmas.

**Frownland** · 12-06-2017, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I got Chula off your back.. I better get a 6pack and a dope mixtape for Christmas.

It makes no difference what men think of Chula's hatred for me, said the judge. Chula's hatred endures. You might as well ask him what he thinks of stone. Chula's hatred was always here. Before I was, Chula's hatred for me waited for me. The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner. That is the way it was and will be. That way and not some other way.

Here's a dope mix anyway, I bolded the ones I think you wouldn't be into:

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Now That's What I [Tentatively] Call the Best Hip Hop Tracks of 2017

Show Me the Body (feat. Denzel Curry and Moor Mother) - In a Grave
Milo - Landscaping (feat. Elucid)
Shabazz Palaces - Since C.A.Y.A.
J.I.D. - Never
Billy Woods - Bush League
Uncommon Nasa - Small Change (feat. Duke01, Furious P & King Kashmere)
A7PHA - No Brakes
Kendrick Lamar - DNA
Moor Mother X Mental Jewelry - Matter of Time
Open Mike Eagle - Breezeway Ritual
Porter Ray - Bulletproof Windows

You should check out Emay's album from this year too.

Chula Vista · 12-06-2017, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Also, working with Chinese megacorporations sounds a tiny bit like outsourcing jobs to save money. Explain yourself!

Step away from your PC for a few minutes. Walk through your house and check out where everything was made. Light fixtures, TVs, speakers, microwave, toaster oven, can opener, laptop, PC, remote controls, cell phones, furniture, etc., etc., etc.

Willing to bet your ****ing bathroom towels and coffee cups were also not built here in the US.

What's your ****ing point?

You want "Made in USA?" - get ready to pay 3 to 4 times more. The amount of whining would be insane.

You want to deport all of the So-Cal immigrants? - get ready to pay $15 for six tomatoes.

Reality sucks, and then you die.

DwnWthVwls · 12-06-2017, 03:28 PM

I buy local and shop etsy. I don't get your point.

OccultHawk · 12-06-2017, 03:31 PM

One reason why I don’t give a **** about mom and pop shops is they’re just as greedy. They maximize their profits as much as possible same as the megakunts but they’re always claiming to be losing money or barely getting by. They go out of business and it’s boohoo for the community but it’s like what the **** did you ever do for me? Keep the money in the community... if it’s in the neighbor’s bank account it doesn’t do me many good. Might as well be in Uganda. The **** I care if my neighbor is rich? He ain’t giving me none.

**Frownland** · 12-06-2017, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Step away from your PC for a few minutes. Walk through your house and check out where everything was made. Light fixtures, TVs, speakers, microwave, toaster oven, can opener, laptop, PC, remote controls, cell phones, furniture, etc., etc., etc.

Willing to bet your ****ing bathroom towels and coffee cups were also not built here in the US.

What's your ****ing point?

You want "Made in USA?" - get ready to pay 3 to 4 times more. The amount of whining would be insane.

If all of the products in my home jumped off of a bridge, would you do it too? Just because outsourcing is popular doesn't mean it's sustainable or beneficial to anyone but big business CEOs like yourself.

Anyway I already try to keep my purchases local if I can for environmental reasons more than anything.

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You want to deport all of the So-Cal immigrants? - get ready to pay $15 for six tomatoes.

Uh when did I say that? Anyway I'd be okay with a higher price because (1) not a fan of tomatoes and (2) exploitation making my life simpler doesn't justify it in any way.

EXPLOIT

verb (used with object)
1.
to utilize, especially for profit; turn to practical account:
to exploit a business opportunity.
2.
to use selfishly for one's own ends:
employers who exploit their workers.
3.
to advance or further through exploitation; promote:
He exploited his new movie through a series of guest appearances

Can't believe I ever thought you were cool. Well guess what mister, I don't think you're a cool guy anymore!!!!

OccultHawk · 12-06-2017, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Step away from your PC for a few minutes. Walk through your house and check out where everything was made. Light fixtures, TVs, speakers, microwave, toaster oven, can opener, laptop, PC, remote controls, cell phones, furniture, etc., etc., etc.

Willing to bet your ****ing bathroom towels and coffee cups were also not built here in the US.

What's your ****ing point?

You want "Made in USA?" - get ready to pay 3 to 4 times more. The amount of whining would be insane.

You want to deport all of the So-Cal immigrants? - get ready to pay $15 for six tomatoes.

Reality sucks, and then you die.

Are you arguing it’s ok to be a ****?

The Batlord · 12-06-2017, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Are you seriously trying to equate a family making $150K a year (in any way) with billionaires?

Before the 2014 crash, Linda and I were averaging about $160K a year. We paid the expected taxes, wrote off whatever was legal, and got by.

Unlike billionaires, we couldn't afford high priced tax advisers to help us exploit the system. Didn't own massive amounts of property that we could exploit via the insane depreciation laws. Couldn't ship any of our wealth (we didn't even have wealth) offshore, and had no means to exploit "super rich people" tax loopholes.

EXPLOIT

verb (used with object)
1.
to utilize, especially for profit; turn to practical account:
to exploit a business opportunity.
2.
to use selfishly for one's own ends:
employers who exploit their workers.
3.
to advance or further through exploitation; promote:
He exploited his new movie through a series of guest appearances.

Can't believe I once thought you were cool.
Glad you can sleep with "your" point of view.

Stop with the ****ing insults too. I can think just fine. Don't be a dick.

Honestly surprised Chula didn't mention full benefits. He's changing it up.

Chula Vista · 12-06-2017, 03:53 PM

re·al·i·ty

rēˈalədē/Submit

noun

1.
the world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them.

12-06-2017, 03:31 PM	#96 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,033	One reason why I don’t give a ** about mom and pop shops is they’re just as greedy. They maximize their profits as much as possible same as the megakunts but they’re always claiming to be losing money or barely getting by. They go out of business and it’s boohoo for the community but it’s like what the did you ever do for me? Keep the money in the community... if it’s in the neighbor’s bank account it doesn’t do me many good. Might as well be in Uganda. The ** I care if my neighbor is rich? He ain’t giving me none. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

12-06-2017, 03:53 PM	#100 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	re·al·i·ty rēˈalədē/Submit noun 1. the world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”