Originally Posted by Machine (Post 1914229)

???

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1914230)

Enough YouTube 4U

Originally Posted by Machine (Post 1914229)

I'm not uncomfortable with identity politics whatsoever I think y'all are mistaking me for some enlightened skeptic centrist type. And are we talking biologically intersex or sociological bull****.

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1914228)

That was the point.



Seriously? Gender is different from sex in the sense that it's a mental thing instead of physcial. This is why people say gender instead of sex in these discussions. Also have you never met a person who was androgynous without trying? If you confuse their gender and they correct you, what is your basis for dismissing that afterwards? You're demonstrating a poor understanding of gender so I wouldn't go with your gut feeling over someone's word tbh.

Originally Posted by Machine (Post 1914235)

First there is no androgynous without trying, that's usually due to fashion sense.

Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1914231)

frown gets it

Originally Posted by Machine (Post 1914235)

First there is no androgynous without trying, that's usually due to fashion sense.

Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1914237)

Just call everybody "The/That Gentlebody". Problem solved.

Example:

As Frownland finished snorting a line of coke off of his own penis, the gentlebody realized that Qwertyy had departed.

"I say," Frownland exclaimed, turning to Grindy, "wherefore hast thine gentlebody bedfellow fled?"

"I know not," answered Grindy, snorting up a few coke crumbs that Frownland had missed. "Many a time hath that gentlebody absconced from mine ken with neither word nor warning."

Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1914243)

what happens between grindy, frown, coke and i behind closed doors is none of the gentlebody’s business.

Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1914231)

frown gets it

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1914242)

:laughing: Not in my experience dude. That's just laughable.



=minorities don't matter

Originally Posted by Isbjørn (Post 1914216)

For referring to non-binary trans people who prefer a gender-neutral pronoun

Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1914217)

There are options outside of they/them as well. I know several people who use ze/zer, for example.

Originally Posted by Machine (Post 1914252)

I hate that anyone who is against the they/them pronouns are forced into this cringy skeptic/enlightened centrist position who watches ben shapiro and sarcuck of assad.

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1914251)

^ I've never heard this myself, but if that's a popular solution, why fight it? It's not so different from (after centuries of Mr./ Mrs./Miss only) the less specific term Ms. was introduced. I imagine that ze/zer is mainly for conversational purposes at the moment. My guess is that in medical documents, etc, people are still writing out he/she when the need arises.

Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds (Post 1914264)

I think Roxy would have a better shot if their debut was on the list instead :(

Originally Posted by Machine (Post 1914252)

I hate that anyone who is against the they/them pronouns are forced into this cringy skeptic/enlightened centrist position who watches ben shapiro and sarcuck of assad.

Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1914256)

Yes, it's used as a pronoun, not an identity. Here in California medical documents largely include nonbinary as a gender selection, and soon it will be an available option on id's and birth certificates as well.

Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds (Post 1914265)

I think Roxy would have a better shot if their debut was on the list instead

Originally Posted by GunmouthGrace (Post 1914260)

K, now I'm kinda interested. Is that meant for people who want to make that change to their own birth certificate later in life, or does it extend to parents deciding that their child will be non-binary?

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1914267)

^ Well that's very inclusive ! Are you saying that ze/zer turns up in their files too?

Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1914299)

*gentlebodily fluids flowing*

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1914253)

You demonstrate a similar lack of understanding and bias dude.

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1914365)

Fire bad

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1914267)

^ Word. Church. I mean I agree. Any time the language changes, there's an uncomfortable period during which your choice of words reveals something about where you stand: are you an open-minded modernist or a die-hard traditionalist?

Originally Posted by bulbasaur (Post 1914368)

is this the machine from blank's journal

Originally Posted by Blank. (Post 1914118)

I just watched this thing where this individual asks to be referred to as they or them pronouns. Which is something I don't understand. Isn't they or them suppose to refer to multiple people?

I understand it's a genderless word, but it seems counter intuitive to the language to use a words that, from what I've always been told, refers to multiple people.

Wouldn't "it" work better as a pronoun?

Originally Posted by Blank. (Post 1914118)

I just watched this thing where this individual asks to be referred to as they or them pronouns. Which is something I don't understand. Isn't they or them suppose to refer to multiple people?

I understand it's a genderless word, but it seems counter intuitive to the language to use a words that, from what I've always been told, refers to multiple people.

Wouldn't "it" work better as a pronoun?