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WWWP 01-13-2018 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Machine (Post 1914213)
See this just looks so much weirder than just saying "he doesn't know what he's talking about". This might be subjective, but it also feels vaguely insulting. Like I said they or them really only works in unidentified situations beyonf that he/his or she/her is all you need.
There are options outside of they/them as well. I know several people who use ze/zer, for example.

Machine 01-13-2018 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1914211)
If it's someone's preference then why does it ****ing matter? You seem to have been led astray, miss.
This isn't really an argument you can make in this "oh why does it matter" blase attitude when you have actual governments putting this pronoun into law. And calling me miss is just biologically inconsistent with your grammar. You could make the argument to use these as insulting terms, but pronouns should really be tied to biology or else you end up with a society too afraid to greet one another. This might seem autistic but I think its important and I really couldn't care less who disagrees.

Machine 01-13-2018 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1914217)
There are options outside of they/them as well. I know several people who use ze/zer, for example.
And this is just plain made up.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 01-13-2018 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Machine (Post 1914218)
This isn't really an argument you can make in this "oh why does it matter" blase attitude when you have actual governments putting this pronoun into law. And calling me miss is just biologically inconsistent with your grammar. You could make the argument to use these as insulting terms, but pronouns should really be tied to biology or else you end up with a society too afraid to greet one another. This might seem autistic but I think its important and I really couldn't care less who disagrees.
you watched one too many ben shapiro vids my man

Machine 01-13-2018 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1914221)
you watched one too many ben shapiro vids my man
**** Ben Shapiro, **** Jordan Peterson, **** Sam Harris.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 01-13-2018 04:46 PM
uh huh

WWWP 01-13-2018 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Machine (Post 1914220)
And this is just plain made up.
So how do we account for the population that is neither male nor female. They don't fit into either box you propose, so isn't it logical to create an alternative term? New words are invented and legitimized on a consistent basis, seems you are just uncomfortable with identity politics in general.

Frownland 01-13-2018 04:48 PM
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And calling me miss is just biologically inconsistent with your grammar.
That was the point.

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You could make the argument to use these as insulting terms, but pronouns should really be tied to biology or else you end up with a society too afraid to greet one another.
Seriously? Gender is different from sex in the sense that it's a mental thing instead of physcial. This is why people say gender instead of sex in these discussions. Also have you never met a person who was androgynous without trying? If you confuse their gender and they correct you, what is your basis for dismissing that afterwards? You're demonstrating a poor understanding of gender so I wouldn't go with your gut feeling over someone's word tbh.

Machine 01-13-2018 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1914223)
uh huh
???

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1914226)
So how do we account for the population that is neither male nor female. They don't fit into either box you propose, so isn't it logical to create an alternative term? New words are invented and legitimized on a consistent basis, seems you are just uncomfortable with identity politics in general.
I'm not uncomfortable with identity politics whatsoever I think y'all are mistaking me for some enlightened skeptic centrist type. And are we talking biologically intersex or sociological bull****.

Frownland 01-13-2018 04:51 PM
Enough YouTube 4U


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