White Shaming

OccultHawk · 05-11-2018, 07:02 AM

Trollheart · 05-11-2018, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy

Dude's racist in so many ways.

Ah leave Dude111 alone. He's not racist.

DwnWthVwls · 05-11-2018, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

America's fixation with race comes from it's deep rooted history of racism that it fails to truly ever acknowledge and tries to sweep under the rug while the long term effects of it are still prevalent today.

Not only does our education system do a half assed summary of our racist history, but any time it's brought up or even current discrimination gets brought up people construe it as an attack on white people.

Curious what you think America could do to "truly acknowledge" it's racist history. Last time I checked there were no slavery deniers like you have with the holocaust. Black history month is a thing (even though it's stupid), affirmative action exists, etc.. People are still alive from the time when there was segregation between the races. From what I've seen we have consistently taken steps forward to progress race relations in this country. Expecting some miracle fix in such a short period of time is unrealistic. Also, history does a half ass job presenting our ENTIRE history, not just our racist history. You don't learn alt history until college, which I agree is a problem, but not just because it doesn't cover race issues. I fail to see the point in dredging up the past unless you use it to say, "this worked" or "this was an effective strategy" or "this had a terrible outcome". The past is in the past and does nothing to solve modern issues when taken out of context. History is a tool we learn from, not something you use to point fingers, unless you're agenda is to guilt people into getting what you want instead of actually resolving issues.

I have no anecdotal experience of people taking criticism and turning it into an attack on white people. I only see that kind of thing with radical twitter/internet morons that pervert the meaning of movements like "Black Lives Matter" to fit their own agenda.

I've seen you respond pretty reasonably in the past, hoping you can put some more consideration into my position than Elph.

**Frownland** · 05-11-2018, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Curious what you think America could do to "truly acknowledge" it's racist history.

Make people more aware of our history of slavery and racism, what led to it, how it lingered, and small ways that we can be unconsciously contributing to racism. Encouraging diversity to reduce implicit biases.

It can also be acknowledged and addressed by trying to end America's culture war that's seeping into virtually every issue. Promote high standards of logic and critical thinking. Reduce identity politics, thwart anti-intellectual trends. Try to point people towards healthy discussion so that they actually listen to each other instead of viewing anything that they disagree with or makes them uncomfortable as a personal attack. We need more woke mother****ers.

I guess I'm being unrealistic though.

DwnWthVwls · 05-11-2018, 11:22 AM

Id like all that too.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 05-11-2018, 11:30 AM

No chance of it stopping.

grindy · 05-11-2018, 11:31 AM

Just kill everyone.

**Frownland** · 05-11-2018, 11:32 AM

Step 1: Recognize that you are scum. Know that the likelihood of you being a ****ing idiot is 100%.
Step 2: Try not to be an idiot or scum by ignoring your dumbass instincts.
Step 3: Profit.

OccultHawk · 05-11-2018, 12:09 PM

I do believe that the basic American history K-12 curriculum is written from a white supremacist perspective. Patriotism is white supremacy.

I also often hear how civics isn’t being taught.

Unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on your perspective not much else is being taught either. Civics is on the docket just like math and science.

The kids who know the most about the horrors of slavery and the injustices of tyranny are the same kids who can read. And the kids who can read can read because they do read. Those kids are mostly white or first generation minorities.

Not all, but most black kids don’t know anything about any kind of history, red or yellow black and white.

**Janszoon** · 05-11-2018, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Last time I checked there were no slavery deniers like you have with the holocaust.

We do have those people. They're not deniers in the sense that they say slavery never happened but they're deniers in the sense that they downplay how horrible and brutal it was.

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OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,033	I do believe that the basic American history K-12 curriculum is written from a white supremacist perspective. Patriotism is white supremacy. I also often hear how civics isn’t being taught. Unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on your perspective not much else is being taught either. Civics is on the docket just like math and science. The kids who know the most about the horrors of slavery and the injustices of tyranny are the same kids who can read. And the kids who can read can read because they do read. Those kids are mostly white or first generation minorities. Not all, but most black kids don’t know anything about any kind of history, red or yellow black and white. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

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