MB's Own November Midterm Election

~~[MERIT]~~ · 11-02-2018, 08:45 PM

Why don't all election with more than 2 candidates implement INSTANT RUNOFF / RANKED voting?

Instead of voting for a single candidate, you rank all candidates on the card in order of your preference for them. The lowest rated candidate is eliminated, then people vote again on the remaining candidates. This is done until there is a winner.

This would be an ideal method of voting, but logistically, I can see problems. People would make their initial vote, then we would have to count all of the ballots, then ask people to come back and vote again, and again, until a winner was declared. This would cost time and money that people just aren't willing to allot to an election, unfortunately.

Any thoughts on what would constitute a "perfect" voting system?

~~[MERIT]~~ · 11-02-2018, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

pretty much you shouldn't bother yes

By this edict, only Democrats and Republicans deserve votes, regardless of how sh*tty they are. Do you see the problem with this? You're perpetuating that "lesser of two evils" bullsh*t.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 11-02-2018, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Vote in the primary?

I'm not saying you get a lot of choice

however you might as well not vote at all if you're going to vote 3rd party tbh, especially since at best you'll actually end up with the farthest candidate from your beliefs

That type of thinking is toxic to any form of democracy! I always vote for some obscure party in the primary, just to ensure that they make it on the ballot. The last time, it was the Constitution Party, and I was the first person all day to do so, according to the guy at the polls.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 11-03-2018, 01:30 AM

VIA: https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/01/n...ook-ad-hunters

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The North Dakota arm of the Democratic Party is running ads on Facebook discouraging hunters from turning out to vote in Tuesday’s midterm elections.

“ATTENTION HUNTERS: If you vote in North Dakota, you may forfeit hunting licenses you have in other states. If you want to keep your out-of-state hunting licenses, you may not want to vote in North Dakota,” read the pair of ads.

The state party is running the ads under a Facebook page titled “Hunter Alerts,” Facebook’s ad archive shows. The “Hunter Alerts” page was created Wednesday, a day before the ads appeared on Facebook.

North Dakota political blogger Rob Port first noted the ads, and said he had never heard of hunters ever losing their licenses after voting in North Dakota. A spokesman for North Dakota Gaming and Fish told Port the same: “We’ve never heard of that.”

The ads come as North Dakota Democratic Sen. Heidi Heitkamp trails Republican challenger Kevin Cramer, a North Dakota U.S. representative, in her bid for re-election.

Heitkamp, whose campaign has made several gaffes in the final stretches of the race, transferred $2.7 million from her campaign to the state party last week.

North Dakota GOP communications director Jake Wilkins slammed Heitkamp for her party’s efforts to discourage hunters from voting. (RELATED: Republicans Feeling Confident About Taking Heidi Heitkamp’s Seat)

“Heidi Heitkamp is using her anti-Kavanaugh campaign coffers to suppress voter turnout in North Dakota,” Wilkins told The Daily Caller News Foundation in an email. “On the day she’s starting her de-facto farewell tour, Heitkamp is making it clear to voters that she only cares about winning re-election, not helping her constituents.”

Neither the state party nor the Heitkamp campaign returned requests for comment on the ads.

The Batlord · 11-03-2018, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT]

That type of thinking is toxic to any form of democracy! I always vote for some obscure party in the primary, just to ensure that they make it on the ballot. The last time, it was the Constitution Party, and I was the first person all day to do so, according to the guy at the polls.

Elph paints himself as a revolutionary but he's really a pragmatist who will compromise because he can't stand losing.

debaserr · 11-03-2018, 03:47 PM

Never mind.

rostasi · 11-03-2018, 03:49 PM

I think you just amplified his point.

The Batlord · 11-03-2018, 04:04 PM

You vote for Democrats and still you judge?

~~[MERIT]~~ · 11-03-2018, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

plus loud 3rd party voters seem to always pick some dumb**** like this

I only voted that way in the primary, not in the actual election, to ensure that the party would make it onto the ballot so that voters would have as many voting options as possible.

DwnWthVwls · 11-04-2018, 03:54 AM

Voting for anyone is voting for the lesser of x evils because they are all villians. Stop voting and demand better candidates. Thanks.

View Poll Results: How will/would you vote on Nov 6?
Generic Democratic Candidate	8	47.06%
Generic Republican Candidate	2	11.76%
Other Candidate	2	11.76%
I don't vote in midterms	5	29.41%
Voters: 17. You may not vote on this poll

11-03-2018, 03:47 PM	#96 (permalink)
debaserr eat the masters Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,470	Never mind. __________________ Last.FM Last edited by debaserr; 11-03-2018 at 03:56 PM.

11-02-2018, 08:45 PM	#91 (permalink)
~~[MERIT]~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 4,823	Why don't all election with more than 2 candidates implement INSTANT RUNOFF / RANKED voting? Instead of voting for a single candidate, you rank all candidates on the card in order of your preference for them. The lowest rated candidate is eliminated, then people vote again on the remaining candidates. This is done until there is a winner. This would be an ideal method of voting, but logistically, I can see problems. People would make their initial vote, then we would have to count all of the ballots, then ask people to come back and vote again, and again, until a winner was declared. This would cost time and money that people just aren't willing to allot to an election, unfortunately. Any thoughts on what would constitute a "perfect" voting system?

11-03-2018, 03:49 PM	#97 (permalink)
rostasi . Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4,016	I think you just amplified his point.